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>But Martinez, a customer service specialist in Los Angeles, didn’t feel the magic when he saw the price tag. “Just for one day in the park and one night at th

>But Martinez, a customer service specialist in Los Angeles, didn’t feel the magic when he saw the price tag. “Just for one day in the park and one night at the hotel, we were looking at over $1k and that didn’t even include food,” he says. “I had to explain to the kids that Mickey was out of Daddy’s budget.” WTF, if your from LA you just drive there? >Median household income was $67,521 in 2020, a decrease of 2.9 percent from the 2019 median of $69,560 (Figure 1 and Table A-1). This is the first statistically significant decline in median household income since 2011. https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2021/demo/p60-273.html https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2021/demo/p60-27... This article uses a figure of 84k per family. I agree with The article's premise, but it just feels a bit sloppy around the edges

spywaregorilla 4y ago
Your statistic is for households. Theirs is for "families", and may only include households with children.
- 999900000999 4y ago
  They don't explain that though, usually the terms are used interchangeably when you're talking about a macroeconomic sense.
  - spywaregorilla 4y ago
    > They don't explain that though They don't use your term so why would they explain the difference? > usually the terms are used interchangeably when you're talking about a macroeconomic sense. This is the first time I'm looking into this but I'm pretty sure you're just making that up. Google shows many sources disagreeing with you, most of which cite definitions created by the US census bureau. https://www.economy.com/support/blog/buffet.aspx?did=932EBFA8-D905-4945-A5D5-D02D98113FA4 https://www.economy.com/support/blog/buffet.aspx?did=932EBFA...
    - 999900000999 4y ago
      Ahh, thank you. I didn't know this
EddieDante 4y ago
> WTF, if your from LA you just drive there? Then you get dinged on gas and parking, and you don't have as much time to actually enjoy the park.
- 999900000999 4y ago
  Um, you still have to pay for gas and parking even if you drive home the next day. That's half the cost here, it would have still been a good article without" oh my God, a family trip to Disneyland is over $1,000"
  - quartesixte 4y ago
    At most thats $25 of gas And $40 of parking for most SoCal residents, and thats if you drive a particularly fuel inefficient car. At 25-30 mpg, a 60 mile round trip radius covers a lot of the LA/OC area for less than $15. $60 + 2 hours of driving << $600 of Hotel fees. It’s not even close.
    - 999900000999 4y ago
      The more I think about this article the more I find it wanting. I go to various free concerts in my city. You can have a lot of fun for free, when I think back my favorite date of all time was just me and my first girlfriend holding hands at the pier. But if I wanted to write an article about how unaffordable dating is, I could say I wanted to take her to see Justin Timberlake. Did you know that Mr. Timberlake has made no effort to make his concert to affordable to working-class couples?!
      - quartesixte 4y ago
        I think the point is that what used to be cultural staples of American Society for families have now become more expensive. Going to free concerts as a young couple (along with other cheap dates) is actually also somewhat expected and if the pop culture references and stories from Boomers/GenXer are true, also a staple of American Society. That being said, going to Disneyland wasn’t a frequent trip kind of thing to most Americans anyways, and the Disneyland of the 60s and 70s is downright unrecognizable at times (chainlink fences at the park entrance). I think the article could have done without the Disneyland reference.
judge2020 4y ago
With Disneyland from Aug 1-2 with 2 adults and 2 kids (age 10,12), the cheapest on-site hotel is Disneyland Hotel at $607/night. If you then do 1-day 1-park tickets on the 1st, that's $600. The costs here come from trying to stay on-property. If you stay off-property (but still close enough to walk) you can book a 4-star for less than $300. And the ticket prices are based on demand, if you can go during the middle of the week in september it's around $400 for a day of Disneyland.
- ac29 4y ago
  The person lives in LA. Granted, traffic sucks in the region but its not like an 30-60 minute drive to Anaheim is going to be something unusual for an LA resident.
- vel0city 4y ago
  The Quality Inn and Suites within walking distance to the park is currently $112/night. There are several others Katella that are under $200/night. It's not the most glamorous of accomodations but if you want to go to Disneyland on a budget accomodations doesn't have to be the expensive part.

spywaregorilla 4y ago

Your statistic is for households. Theirs is for "families", and may only include households with children.

999900000999 4y ago
They don't explain that though, usually the terms are used interchangeably when you're talking about a macroeconomic sense.
- spywaregorilla 4y ago
  > They don't explain that though They don't use your term so why would they explain the difference? > usually the terms are used interchangeably when you're talking about a macroeconomic sense. This is the first time I'm looking into this but I'm pretty sure you're just making that up. Google shows many sources disagreeing with you, most of which cite definitions created by the US census bureau. https://www.economy.com/support/blog/buffet.aspx?did=932EBFA8-D905-4945-A5D5-D02D98113FA4 https://www.economy.com/support/blog/buffet.aspx?did=932EBFA...
  - 999900000999 4y ago
    Ahh, thank you. I didn't know this

EddieDante 4y ago

> WTF, if your from LA you just drive there? Then you get dinged on gas and parking, and you don't have as much time to actually enjoy the park.

999900000999 4y ago
Um, you still have to pay for gas and parking even if you drive home the next day. That's half the cost here, it would have still been a good article without" oh my God, a family trip to Disneyland is over $1,000"
- quartesixte 4y ago
  At most thats $25 of gas And $40 of parking for most SoCal residents, and thats if you drive a particularly fuel inefficient car. At 25-30 mpg, a 60 mile round trip radius covers a lot of the LA/OC area for less than $15. $60 + 2 hours of driving << $600 of Hotel fees. It’s not even close.
  - 999900000999 4y ago
    The more I think about this article the more I find it wanting. I go to various free concerts in my city. You can have a lot of fun for free, when I think back my favorite date of all time was just me and my first girlfriend holding hands at the pier. But if I wanted to write an article about how unaffordable dating is, I could say I wanted to take her to see Justin Timberlake. Did you know that Mr. Timberlake has made no effort to make his concert to affordable to working-class couples?!
    - quartesixte 4y ago
      I think the point is that what used to be cultural staples of American Society for families have now become more expensive. Going to free concerts as a young couple (along with other cheap dates) is actually also somewhat expected and if the pop culture references and stories from Boomers/GenXer are true, also a staple of American Society. That being said, going to Disneyland wasn’t a frequent trip kind of thing to most Americans anyways, and the Disneyland of the 60s and 70s is downright unrecognizable at times (chainlink fences at the park entrance). I think the article could have done without the Disneyland reference.

judge2020 4y ago

With Disneyland from Aug 1-2 with 2 adults and 2 kids (age 10,12), the cheapest on-site hotel is Disneyland Hotel at $607/night. If you then do 1-day 1-park tickets on the 1st, that's $600. The costs here come from trying to stay on-property. If you stay off-property (but still close enough to walk) you can book a 4-star for less than $300. And the ticket prices are based on demand, if you can go during the middle of the week in september it's around $400 for a day of Disneyland.

ac29 4y ago
The person lives in LA. Granted, traffic sucks in the region but its not like an 30-60 minute drive to Anaheim is going to be something unusual for an LA resident.
vel0city 4y ago
The Quality Inn and Suites within walking distance to the park is currently $112/night. There are several others Katella that are under $200/night. It's not the most glamorous of accomodations but if you want to go to Disneyland on a budget accomodations doesn't have to be the expensive part.