Shipping data offshore has real legal implications that are anything but FUD. It's actually rather complex to unravel who has juristiction over what. Telstra's

Shipping data offshore has real legal implications that are anything but FUD. It's actually rather complex to unravel who has juristiction over what. Telstra's cloud is rather sad. Manual day long provisions really arn't a cloud by any reasonable strech of the imagination. That being said, not all of the new clouds are, well, backwards. Take a look at OrionVM (disclaimer, I work there). They have vm's that provision in seconds, that are HA under hardware failure, that have real distributed disks that are faster then comparable hardware disks, that have real private layer 2 networks, that have a remote out of band serial console, that has a damn pretty UI, .... But at the end of the day, the market isn't there for cloud. US companies love us. US VC's instantly get us and our tech. But when we try and market here in aus, we've found that nobody here actually wants a cloud. What they want is a dedicated server without the hardware. Which is depressing, if you think about it. Profitable, but depressing.