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Call me old fashioned but I prefer chill music that was hand crafted by a DJ blending samples from wide influences as in the Buddha Bar or Cafe Del Mar collecti

Call me old fashioned but I prefer chill music that was hand crafted by a DJ blending samples from wide influences as in the Buddha Bar or Cafe Del Mar collections. I am afraid all these LoFi channels and Spotify Focus playlists songs are in reality just procedurally generated by them under some made up lables so in reality no artists are actually paid for the stream and the money (what little there is anymore) goes from their right pocket to their left pocket. Claud Challe and DJ Ravin would probably not happen in the modern streaming age.

bambax 4y ago
This is quite irrelevant to the discussion. To the best of our knowledge, the OP made the tracks and programmed the sounds; if any artist should be paid it's them, not some DJ or samples maker in fashion at the Buddha Bar.
999900000999 4y ago
I think it just depends on what you're in the mood for. Every now and then I'll put on a chill channel, but usually I'm looking for something more specific than that. At least for now, the quality gap between something custom-made, and a procedural track is pretty large
fbanon 4y ago
This. There's such a vast catalog of human-composed ambient music, that I just simply don't see why someone would prefer to listen to this algorithmically generated soulless muzak. Same goes for the "lo-fi beats for study" channels. There are so many good instrumental hip-hop albums. MF Doom instrumentals (Special Herbs series), J Dilla instrumentals, Boards of Canada, Madlib instrumentals, etc. Why listen to that trite crap? It's the equivalent of "eating out" in McDonald's.
- LAC-Tech 4y ago
  Well a lot of them are royalty free, so I use them on streams.
- tripzilch 4y ago
  > There's such a vast catalog of human-composed ambient music, that I just simply don't see why someone would prefer to listen to this algorithmically generated soulless muzak. A lot of human-composed ambient music actually has a lot of algorithmically determined elements. One of the simplest examples is using several tape loops of differing lengths (which Boards of Canada are very fond of). Similarly if you dig into the composition and ideas behind some of Brian Eno's pieces, you will find they are rule based. Even using a computer for doing this automatically isn't very new. It's being done by modular synthesis enthusiasts since ages. Many of these ambient pieces would actually generate different ambient sounds for a very long time, and the "soulful" recordings thereof (on CD or Vinyl) are merely short excerpts from the actual piece. Generating and listening to it live is sometimes the only way to fully enjoy an ambient piece.
loaf_eye 4y ago
> I am afraid all these LoFi channels and Spotify Focus playlists songs are in reality just procedurally generated I don't think this is true, there's some lo-fi covers on Spotify that, I assume, have been composed manually like any other, e.g. tracks like https://open.spotify.com/track/32VdL9yw37qMRhvDQBicOJ?si=NWj2U5-9RLaL12Gnz62e9Q https://open.spotify.com/track/32VdL9yw37qMRhvDQBicOJ?si=NWj... https://open.spotify.com/track/1dTWwTiKKxf0WSmFIV34Zf?si=AzkjYxEMRvCYMmDxCn5cew https://open.spotify.com/track/1dTWwTiKKxf0WSmFIV34Zf?si=Azk...

bambax 4y ago

This is quite irrelevant to the discussion. To the best of our knowledge, the OP made the tracks and programmed the sounds; if any artist should be paid it's them, not some DJ or samples maker in fashion at the Buddha Bar.

999900000999 4y ago

I think it just depends on what you're in the mood for. Every now and then I'll put on a chill channel, but usually I'm looking for something more specific than that. At least for now, the quality gap between something custom-made, and a procedural track is pretty large

fbanon 4y ago

This. There's such a vast catalog of human-composed ambient music, that I just simply don't see why someone would prefer to listen to this algorithmically generated soulless muzak. Same goes for the "lo-fi beats for study" channels. There are so many good instrumental hip-hop albums. MF Doom instrumentals (Special Herbs series), J Dilla instrumentals, Boards of Canada, Madlib instrumentals, etc. Why listen to that trite crap? It's the equivalent of "eating out" in McDonald's.

LAC-Tech 4y ago
Well a lot of them are royalty free, so I use them on streams.
tripzilch 4y ago
> There's such a vast catalog of human-composed ambient music, that I just simply don't see why someone would prefer to listen to this algorithmically generated soulless muzak. A lot of human-composed ambient music actually has a lot of algorithmically determined elements. One of the simplest examples is using several tape loops of differing lengths (which Boards of Canada are very fond of). Similarly if you dig into the composition and ideas behind some of Brian Eno's pieces, you will find they are rule based. Even using a computer for doing this automatically isn't very new. It's being done by modular synthesis enthusiasts since ages. Many of these ambient pieces would actually generate different ambient sounds for a very long time, and the "soulful" recordings thereof (on CD or Vinyl) are merely short excerpts from the actual piece. Generating and listening to it live is sometimes the only way to fully enjoy an ambient piece.

loaf_eye 4y ago

> I am afraid all these LoFi channels and Spotify Focus playlists songs are in reality just procedurally generated I don't think this is true, there's some lo-fi covers on Spotify that, I assume, have been composed manually like any other, e.g. tracks like https://open.spotify.com/track/32VdL9yw37qMRhvDQBicOJ?si=NWj2U5-9RLaL12Gnz62e9Q https://open.spotify.com/track/32VdL9yw37qMRhvDQBicOJ?si=NWj... https://open.spotify.com/track/1dTWwTiKKxf0WSmFIV34Zf?si=AzkjYxEMRvCYMmDxCn5cew https://open.spotify.com/track/1dTWwTiKKxf0WSmFIV34Zf?si=Azk...