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> EUropean here. > Who cares? Is this an American thing to always brag something about race, or how much "non-racist we are"? It matters because it's unpreced

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> EUropean here. > Who cares? Is this an American thing to always brag something about race, or how much "non-racist we are"? It matters because it's unprecedented in the United States, which is far more diverse than any other country in the world by a long shot. Think about all the racial tension that exists in most European countries from some sizable "outsider" populations. Roma in most of Europe. Polish in England. Turks in Germany. The United States completely eclipses all of that because we have accept more refugees and immigration than any other country in the world and we have the largest immigrant population in the world. > Nobody gives a sh* here. Probably not if you are part of the roughly 90 percent of people in any given state in Europe that happen to be the right race. > In my opinion, US is still racist AF. Yes, which is why seeing a black president be elected is remarkable. > And it can mean racist against all kinds of people, even against white people. But you don't want to hear that ;-P ;-P Racism is a shared tradition amongst all people and ironically it does not discriminate.

trasz 4y ago
>United States, which is far more diverse than any other country in the world Here’s one fundamental problems with many Americans: they know nothing about outside world.
- least 4y ago
  Name a more ethnically/racially diverse country.
  - trasz 4y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_ranked_by_ethnic_and_cultural_diversity_level https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_ranked_by_et... Literally half of all the worlds countries is more diverse.
    - least 4y ago
      The methodology used in this list is deeply flawed. It depends on US Census Bureau data which does not make distinctions between subgroups of ethnicities, despite them being culturally and racially distinct from each other. Indians (which could be broken down into further subgroups), Afghani (which could be further broken down into Pashtuns, Tajiks, Uzbeks, Hazaras, etc.), Japanese and Laotians are not the same people but they'd all be classified as Asian. This does not paint an accurate picture of the incredible diversity that exists in the United States. In contrast, Uganda, which was ranked the highest on this list, has much more granular data available. I'd urge you to pause your ignorant, inflammatory, and xenophobic takes for a moment to reflect on whether or not they're even true.
      - trasz 4y ago
        But of course you don’t have any data to support it, how surprising.
        least 4y ago
        The United States Census Bureau's official population counts, as I've said, use very broad groups to categorize ethnicities which is not reflective of just how many groups of people live in the United States. Korea has an idea of how many Koreans are living in the United States currently [1] and you can probably type just about any sort of ethnicity, nationality, or race, and find some estimates or information about their presence in the United States. The Census Bureau does perform (unofficial) surveys that can give you a glimpse of the demographics in the US [2] [3] as well. We have the largest population of immigrants in the world [4] and the nation is comprised almost entirely of non-indigenous people. The fact that the US is incredibly diverse is not controversial to anyone that is even modestly informed. [1] https://www.mofa.go.kr/www/wpge/m_21509/contents.do https://www.mofa.go.kr/www/wpge/m_21509/contents.do [2] https://www.census.gov/data/tables/2000/dec/phc-t-43.html https://www.census.gov/data/tables/2000/dec/phc-t-43.html [3] https://archive.ph/20200212212204/http://factfinder.census.gov/faces/tableservices/jsf/pages/productview.xhtml?pid=ACS_13_1YR_B04003&prodType=table https://archive.ph/20200212212204/http://factfinder.census.g... [4] https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/08/20/key-findings-about-u-s-immigrants/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/08/20/key-finding...

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trasz 4y ago

>United States, which is far more diverse than any other country in the world Here’s one fundamental problems with many Americans: they know nothing about outside world.

least 4y ago
Name a more ethnically/racially diverse country.
- trasz 4y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_ranked_by_ethnic_and_cultural_diversity_level https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_ranked_by_et... Literally half of all the worlds countries is more diverse.
  - least 4y ago
    The methodology used in this list is deeply flawed. It depends on US Census Bureau data which does not make distinctions between subgroups of ethnicities, despite them being culturally and racially distinct from each other. Indians (which could be broken down into further subgroups), Afghani (which could be further broken down into Pashtuns, Tajiks, Uzbeks, Hazaras, etc.), Japanese and Laotians are not the same people but they'd all be classified as Asian. This does not paint an accurate picture of the incredible diversity that exists in the United States. In contrast, Uganda, which was ranked the highest on this list, has much more granular data available. I'd urge you to pause your ignorant, inflammatory, and xenophobic takes for a moment to reflect on whether or not they're even true.
    - trasz 4y ago
      But of course you don’t have any data to support it, how surprising.
      - least 4y ago
        The United States Census Bureau's official population counts, as I've said, use very broad groups to categorize ethnicities which is not reflective of just how many groups of people live in the United States. Korea has an idea of how many Koreans are living in the United States currently [1] and you can probably type just about any sort of ethnicity, nationality, or race, and find some estimates or information about their presence in the United States. The Census Bureau does perform (unofficial) surveys that can give you a glimpse of the demographics in the US [2] [3] as well. We have the largest population of immigrants in the world [4] and the nation is comprised almost entirely of non-indigenous people. The fact that the US is incredibly diverse is not controversial to anyone that is even modestly informed. [1] https://www.mofa.go.kr/www/wpge/m_21509/contents.do https://www.mofa.go.kr/www/wpge/m_21509/contents.do [2] https://www.census.gov/data/tables/2000/dec/phc-t-43.html https://www.census.gov/data/tables/2000/dec/phc-t-43.html [3] https://archive.ph/20200212212204/http://factfinder.census.gov/faces/tableservices/jsf/pages/productview.xhtml?pid=ACS_13_1YR_B04003&prodType=table https://archive.ph/20200212212204/http://factfinder.census.g... [4] https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/08/20/key-findings-about-u-s-immigrants/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/08/20/key-finding...