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> Ankhi Das, Facebook’s most senior executive in India, resigned in October 2020 after the Wall Street Journal reported she had intervened to prevent the platfo

> Ankhi Das, Facebook’s most senior executive in India, resigned in October 2020 after the Wall Street Journal reported she had intervened to prevent the platform removing accounts of members of the country’s Hindu nationalist ruling party, some of whom had called for violence against India’s Muslim minority. I am not sure it is Facebook’s place to be policing members of the government of the largest democracy in the world.

anon261114 4y ago
Facebook claims to follow a content moderation policy [1] for users on its platform. "Members of the government of the largest democracy in the world" is not a justification to bestow some kind of immunity from their policy. They should apply that policy to all users. [1]: https://transparency.fb.com/en-gb/policies/community-standards/ https://transparency.fb.com/en-gb/policies/community-standar...
- baybal2 4y ago
oneoff786 4y ago
So… you’re in favor of providing a platform to call for violence against ethnic minorities?
- hiyer 4y ago
  - anon261114 4y ago
    > I don't see how Assuming you intend to see, you can see how if you read the article and its linked articles.
    - hiyer 4y ago
      I'm only referring to the specific case of the members of the ruling party allegedly making calls for violence. There is nothing in the article that says these were made on Facebook.
      - anon261114 4y ago
        From the articles: "religious violence fomented in India across Meta’s platforms.” "Facebook allowed a Hindu nationalist conspiracy theory to flourish on its platform" "One video of an extremist preacher calling for Hindus to rise up and kill Muslims racked up 1.4 million views but was not deleted" "Facebook banned a Hindu extremist group under its terrorism policies—but left most of its pages online for months after that ban, allowing them to share content" "In Facebook posts and public appearances, Indian politician T. Raja Singh has said Rohingya Muslim immigrants should be shot, called Muslims traitors and threatened to raze mosques. [FB employees] concluded Mr. Singh not only had violated the company’s hate-speech rules " "The company’s top public-policy executive in the country, Ankhi Das, opposed applying the hate-speech rules to Mr. Singh and at least three other Hindu nationalist individuals and groups flagged internally for promoting or participating in violence, said the current and former employees." "team took no action after BJP politicians posted content accusing Muslims of intentionally spreading the coronavirus, plotting against the nation and waging a “love jihad” campaign by seeking to marry Hindu women" "He has used Facebook, where his own page and those dedicated to him have more than 400,000 followers, to say that Muslims who kill cows—animals revered by Hindus—should be slaughtered like them." "Another BJP legislator, a member of Parliament named Anantkumar Hegde, has posted essays and cartoons to his Facebook page alleging that Muslims are spreading Covid-19 in the country in a conspiracy to wage “Corona Jihad.”" "Within hours of the videotaped message, which Mr. Mishra uploaded to Facebook, rioting broke out that left dozens of people dead. Most of the victims were Muslims, and some of their killings were organized via Facebook’s WhatsApp, according to court documents filed by police and published in Indian newspapers."
- tsimionescu 4y ago
  Isn't that the US free speech ideal? Didn't the ACLU use to defend the right of KKK members to hold rallies for exactly this ideal?
  - yiamvino 4y ago
    let me understand this right holding rallies / calling violence are synonyms to one another all comes under free speech ?
    - tsimionescu 4y ago
      What do you think the KKK would do at those rallies? Share cookies?
      - Synaesthesia 4y ago
        Even in the US with its exceptional.free speech laws, calls for violence or.murder are outlawed.
  - angelbar 4y ago
    Facebook is a private communication party.... they can be screaming their lungs out on the streets, if their goverments allow it.
    - tsimionescu 4y ago
      I didn't talk about the law, but the ideal.
      - causi 4y ago
        No, compelling a company to host speech it doesn't agree with is not the free speech ideal.
  - howinteresting 4y ago
    The ACLU was stupid for defending the KKK and I'm glad they've wised up.
causi 4y ago
In what way is that "policing"?
- mantas 4y ago
  In many parts of the world Facebook is synonymous to Internet. If you can't post on Facebook, you're pretty much toasted as a public figure.
  - denton-scratch 4y ago
    That brings to mind a certain orange fellow; but he doesn't seem to be toast (not yet).
    - mantas 4y ago
      US is quite diverse with Twitter. Which is let’s say… not so popular in many other markets.
  - causi 4y ago
    Then the largest democracy in the world is free to make their own social media.
    - mantas 4y ago
      I can imagine outcry if India banned Facebook :D but they banned TikTok, so maybe FB time will come too.
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anon261114 4y ago

Facebook claims to follow a content moderation policy [1] for users on its platform. "Members of the government of the largest democracy in the world" is not a justification to bestow some kind of immunity from their policy. They should apply that policy to all users. [1]: https://transparency.fb.com/en-gb/policies/community-standards/ https://transparency.fb.com/en-gb/policies/community-standar...

baybal2 4y ago

oneoff786 4y ago

So… you’re in favor of providing a platform to call for violence against ethnic minorities?

hiyer 4y ago
- anon261114 4y ago
  > I don't see how Assuming you intend to see, you can see how if you read the article and its linked articles.
  - hiyer 4y ago
    I'm only referring to the specific case of the members of the ruling party allegedly making calls for violence. There is nothing in the article that says these were made on Facebook.
    - anon261114 4y ago
      From the articles: "religious violence fomented in India across Meta’s platforms.” "Facebook allowed a Hindu nationalist conspiracy theory to flourish on its platform" "One video of an extremist preacher calling for Hindus to rise up and kill Muslims racked up 1.4 million views but was not deleted" "Facebook banned a Hindu extremist group under its terrorism policies—but left most of its pages online for months after that ban, allowing them to share content" "In Facebook posts and public appearances, Indian politician T. Raja Singh has said Rohingya Muslim immigrants should be shot, called Muslims traitors and threatened to raze mosques. [FB employees] concluded Mr. Singh not only had violated the company’s hate-speech rules " "The company’s top public-policy executive in the country, Ankhi Das, opposed applying the hate-speech rules to Mr. Singh and at least three other Hindu nationalist individuals and groups flagged internally for promoting or participating in violence, said the current and former employees." "team took no action after BJP politicians posted content accusing Muslims of intentionally spreading the coronavirus, plotting against the nation and waging a “love jihad” campaign by seeking to marry Hindu women" "He has used Facebook, where his own page and those dedicated to him have more than 400,000 followers, to say that Muslims who kill cows—animals revered by Hindus—should be slaughtered like them." "Another BJP legislator, a member of Parliament named Anantkumar Hegde, has posted essays and cartoons to his Facebook page alleging that Muslims are spreading Covid-19 in the country in a conspiracy to wage “Corona Jihad.”" "Within hours of the videotaped message, which Mr. Mishra uploaded to Facebook, rioting broke out that left dozens of people dead. Most of the victims were Muslims, and some of their killings were organized via Facebook’s WhatsApp, according to court documents filed by police and published in Indian newspapers."
tsimionescu 4y ago
Isn't that the US free speech ideal? Didn't the ACLU use to defend the right of KKK members to hold rallies for exactly this ideal?
- yiamvino 4y ago
  let me understand this right holding rallies / calling violence are synonyms to one another all comes under free speech ?
  - tsimionescu 4y ago
    What do you think the KKK would do at those rallies? Share cookies?
    - Synaesthesia 4y ago
      Even in the US with its exceptional.free speech laws, calls for violence or.murder are outlawed.
- angelbar 4y ago
  Facebook is a private communication party.... they can be screaming their lungs out on the streets, if their goverments allow it.
  - tsimionescu 4y ago
    I didn't talk about the law, but the ideal.
    - causi 4y ago
      No, compelling a company to host speech it doesn't agree with is not the free speech ideal.
- howinteresting 4y ago
  The ACLU was stupid for defending the KKK and I'm glad they've wised up.

causi 4y ago

In what way is that "policing"?

mantas 4y ago
In many parts of the world Facebook is synonymous to Internet. If you can't post on Facebook, you're pretty much toasted as a public figure.
- denton-scratch 4y ago
  That brings to mind a certain orange fellow; but he doesn't seem to be toast (not yet).
  - mantas 4y ago
    US is quite diverse with Twitter. Which is let’s say… not so popular in many other markets.
- causi 4y ago
  Then the largest democracy in the world is free to make their own social media.
  - mantas 4y ago
    I can imagine outcry if India banned Facebook :D but they banned TikTok, so maybe FB time will come too.

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