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In the US, you are expected to uphold the line that brings you donors. That makes leftist parties non-viable. That’s not such a big difference from the Chinese

by akho 4y ago

In the US, you are expected to uphold the line that brings you donors. That makes leftist parties non-viable. That’s not such a big difference from the Chinese situation as you’d think, except in direction.

roca 4y ago
The CCP: -- Put a million Uighurs in camps -- Persecutes followers of pretty much all religions --- Muslims, Christians, Buddhists, Falun Gong, etc -- Flat-out censors anything that offends them in the slightest -- Puts whoever they want into detention with no kind of due process, from small-time activists to billionaires -- Harvests the organs of (not previously dead) prisoners -- Had drones peering into apartment windows during the latest COVID lockdown, broadcasting the literal message "control your soul's desire for freedom" -- and of course is an autocracy in which Xi Jinping has absolute power The USA is far from perfect but one thing we learned from Trump in 2016 and Bloomberg in 2020 is that money isn't everything in American politics. The parties do have major differences and bad actors can be held accountable. I'm not American, but this equivalence that some people like to draw between the governments of China and the USA drives me crazy.
- akho 4y ago
  I was speaking strictly about access of differing view / value systems to the voting ballot, not judging the systems a whole. China sucks more. (Though viewing China as a full autocracy with absolute power of a single individual is extremely simplistic)
  - roca 4y ago
    Political representation of different view/value systems is much better in the USA than in China. > (Though viewing China as a full autocracy with absolute power of a single individual is extremely simplistic) It's overly simplistic, but less "overly" than it was 10 years ago.
FreqSep 4y ago
What makes leftist parties unviable is the majority of the population disapproving of socialism. People online vastly overestimate the actual effect of money on political results, naturally disregarding all the donations made to candidates that lose and ignoring races where the lesser funded candidates win. If Americans wanted a leftist government, they’d vote for it, simple as that. And yet even in the most left leaning states and cities in the nation , leftist principles have failed to gain much electoral ground.
- kebman 4y ago
  This is correct and supported by statistical findings within Political Science.

by akho 4y ago

roca 4y ago

The CCP: -- Put a million Uighurs in camps -- Persecutes followers of pretty much all religions --- Muslims, Christians, Buddhists, Falun Gong, etc -- Flat-out censors anything that offends them in the slightest -- Puts whoever they want into detention with no kind of due process, from small-time activists to billionaires -- Harvests the organs of (not previously dead) prisoners -- Had drones peering into apartment windows during the latest COVID lockdown, broadcasting the literal message "control your soul's desire for freedom" -- and of course is an autocracy in which Xi Jinping has absolute power The USA is far from perfect but one thing we learned from Trump in 2016 and Bloomberg in 2020 is that money isn't everything in American politics. The parties do have major differences and bad actors can be held accountable. I'm not American, but this equivalence that some people like to draw between the governments of China and the USA drives me crazy.

akho 4y ago
I was speaking strictly about access of differing view / value systems to the voting ballot, not judging the systems a whole. China sucks more. (Though viewing China as a full autocracy with absolute power of a single individual is extremely simplistic)
- roca 4y ago
  Political representation of different view/value systems is much better in the USA than in China. > (Though viewing China as a full autocracy with absolute power of a single individual is extremely simplistic) It's overly simplistic, but less "overly" than it was 10 years ago.

FreqSep 4y ago

What makes leftist parties unviable is the majority of the population disapproving of socialism. People online vastly overestimate the actual effect of money on political results, naturally disregarding all the donations made to candidates that lose and ignoring races where the lesser funded candidates win. If Americans wanted a leftist government, they’d vote for it, simple as that. And yet even in the most left leaning states and cities in the nation , leftist principles have failed to gain much electoral ground.

kebman 4y ago
This is correct and supported by statistical findings within Political Science.