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I think that would be problematic - there would be a significant proportion of downed drones, whether by mechanical failure, bird strike, overhead cables, bridg

I think that would be problematic - there would be a significant proportion of downed drones, whether by mechanical failure, bird strike, overhead cables, bridges, battery outages, etc. It would be particularly dangerous for drivers to have random drone drops over highways. If we tried to site the highways elsewhere, how many people would complain about noise over their gardens or houses? How many enterprising people with slingshots would make a sport out of downing drones? In the UK we have NIMBYs (Not In My Back Yard) and BANANAs (Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anybody) who would besiege the local councils with objections and cause havoc for planners. I agree with the top comment, this is spurious vaporware that's been ejaculated out of some government-affiliated think tank with no actual plan for feasibility, delivery or value.

mschuster91 4y ago
> In the UK we have NIMBYs (Not In My Back Yard) and BANANAs (Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anybody) who would besiege the local councils with objections and cause havoc for planners. I immediately had to think of Minions and their characteristic of well intentions disrupting their boss's plans when reading BANANAs... To get back to topic - here in Germany, we have introduced a special law, the "Maßnahmengesetz" [1], to bypass the usual permit processes and NIMBY/BANANA bullshit for twelve major infrastructure process. Basically, the law is explicitly saying that the projects in its scope are of major national/european importance, have been decided upon democratically and so do not need additional layers of checks and balances. Unfortunately, the EU Commission decided in all its glory that this idea of short-cutting the NIMBYs is a violation of EU law and so everything is under question again [2] [1] https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/magvg/BJNR064000020.html https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/magvg/BJNR064000020.html [2] https://www.eurailpress.de/nachrichten/politik/detail/news/infrastrukturprojekte-eu-kommission-gegen-deutsches-beschleunigungsgesetz.html https://www.eurailpress.de/nachrichten/politik/detail/news/i...
- 7952 4y ago
  The UK has a special arrangement for nationally significant infrastructure projects. They are decided by a public enquiry rather than local authorities and can use powers like compulsory purchase.
ghaff 4y ago
If they're too dangerous to fly over public roads all the time it's problematic to put them over people and houses on private property instead. (Leaving aside noise issues.) I imagine drones will have their place to do urgent deliveries especially where there aren't roads. But they suffer from the same problem that other heavier than air craft do (e.g. flying cars), their failure mode is falling out of sky on top of things--even with safety systems like parachutes.
globular-toast 4y ago
The trouble with the NIMBY/BANANA labels is it basically amounts to saying "you care about something I don't care about". I know it's hard to believe, but other people do have different interests than you.

mschuster91 4y ago

> In the UK we have NIMBYs (Not In My Back Yard) and BANANAs (Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anybody) who would besiege the local councils with objections and cause havoc for planners. I immediately had to think of Minions and their characteristic of well intentions disrupting their boss's plans when reading BANANAs... To get back to topic - here in Germany, we have introduced a special law, the "Maßnahmengesetz" [1], to bypass the usual permit processes and NIMBY/BANANA bullshit for twelve major infrastructure process. Basically, the law is explicitly saying that the projects in its scope are of major national/european importance, have been decided upon democratically and so do not need additional layers of checks and balances. Unfortunately, the EU Commission decided in all its glory that this idea of short-cutting the NIMBYs is a violation of EU law and so everything is under question again [2] [1] https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/magvg/BJNR064000020.html https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/magvg/BJNR064000020.html [2] https://www.eurailpress.de/nachrichten/politik/detail/news/infrastrukturprojekte-eu-kommission-gegen-deutsches-beschleunigungsgesetz.html https://www.eurailpress.de/nachrichten/politik/detail/news/i...

7952 4y ago
The UK has a special arrangement for nationally significant infrastructure projects. They are decided by a public enquiry rather than local authorities and can use powers like compulsory purchase.

ghaff 4y ago

If they're too dangerous to fly over public roads all the time it's problematic to put them over people and houses on private property instead. (Leaving aside noise issues.) I imagine drones will have their place to do urgent deliveries especially where there aren't roads. But they suffer from the same problem that other heavier than air craft do (e.g. flying cars), their failure mode is falling out of sky on top of things--even with safety systems like parachutes.

globular-toast 4y ago

The trouble with the NIMBY/BANANA labels is it basically amounts to saying "you care about something I don't care about". I know it's hard to believe, but other people do have different interests than you.