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There was a rule when foreign companies have to partner with a local one. This rule was recently relaxed; for example there was some Tesla factory a while ago t

There was a rule when foreign companies have to partner with a local one. This rule was recently relaxed; for example there was some Tesla factory a while ago that had 100% foreign ownership.

ravel-bar-foo 4y ago
In the Tesla case the Chinese government astroturfed a scandal as soon as the cars were available for sale, and people who had bought Teslas were being singled out for harrassment by police. So it's a very interesting case of rules being relaxed...
- FooBarWidget 4y ago
  Are you talking about banning Teslas for government use or on government ground? That's not a scandal at all, that's just taking security precautions. These precautions may or may not be right, but nothing about these precautions were about kicking Tesla out of the country, nor banning Tesla use under the general public. In complete contrast to how Huawei was handled in the west.
  - ravel-bar-foo 4y ago
    No, I was talking about the incidents discussed in this article: https://thefederalist.com/2021/07/09/teslas-struggle-in-china-is-a-warning-to-all-western-companies/ https://thefederalist.com/2021/07/09/teslas-struggle-in-chin... First the PRC government made an exception for Tesla: > To entice Tesla to China, the Chinese government agreed to let Tesla become the first non-Chinese auto company with a solely owned subsidiary in China. Once Tesla was established in China, there was a faked scandal to discredit the company, supported by state media: > In April, a Chinese Tesla owner’s video claiming “Tesla brakes fail” went viral in China and was viewed more than 200 million times. It is essential to know that sometimes the Chinese government pushes for or encourages such online outcries to achieve its political goals. While the story was pushed by Xinhua, it turned out the actual brake failure was faked: > https://driveteslacanada.ca/news/owner-fabricating-china-brake-failure-case/ https://driveteslacanada.ca/news/owner-fabricating-china-bra... Around the same time, Chinese police were preferentially pulling over Teslas: https://electrek.co/2021/04/23/tesla-owners-stopped-going-on-highway-by-police-chinese-megacity/ https://electrek.co/2021/04/23/tesla-owners-stopped-going-on...
makomk 4y ago
I probably ought to have mentioned this in my original comment - China allowed companies to set up certain kinds of Chinese operations, such as manufacturing, by partnering with a local company and setting up a joint operation but they're a lot more restrictive about online information services. Operating those really is limited to wholely Chinese-owned and Chinese-operated companies as I understand it, joint partnerships with foreign companies are not permitted to run them. This includes things like the Chinese versions of AWS and iCloud, which are entirely operated by existing Chinese companies.

There was a rule when foreign companies have to partner with a local one. This rule was recently relaxed; for example there was some Tesla factory a while ago that had 100% foreign ownership.

ravel-bar-foo 4y ago

In the Tesla case the Chinese government astroturfed a scandal as soon as the cars were available for sale, and people who had bought Teslas were being singled out for harrassment by police. So it's a very interesting case of rules being relaxed...

FooBarWidget 4y ago
Are you talking about banning Teslas for government use or on government ground? That's not a scandal at all, that's just taking security precautions. These precautions may or may not be right, but nothing about these precautions were about kicking Tesla out of the country, nor banning Tesla use under the general public. In complete contrast to how Huawei was handled in the west.
- ravel-bar-foo 4y ago
  No, I was talking about the incidents discussed in this article: https://thefederalist.com/2021/07/09/teslas-struggle-in-china-is-a-warning-to-all-western-companies/ https://thefederalist.com/2021/07/09/teslas-struggle-in-chin... First the PRC government made an exception for Tesla: > To entice Tesla to China, the Chinese government agreed to let Tesla become the first non-Chinese auto company with a solely owned subsidiary in China. Once Tesla was established in China, there was a faked scandal to discredit the company, supported by state media: > In April, a Chinese Tesla owner’s video claiming “Tesla brakes fail” went viral in China and was viewed more than 200 million times. It is essential to know that sometimes the Chinese government pushes for or encourages such online outcries to achieve its political goals. While the story was pushed by Xinhua, it turned out the actual brake failure was faked: > https://driveteslacanada.ca/news/owner-fabricating-china-brake-failure-case/ https://driveteslacanada.ca/news/owner-fabricating-china-bra... Around the same time, Chinese police were preferentially pulling over Teslas: https://electrek.co/2021/04/23/tesla-owners-stopped-going-on-highway-by-police-chinese-megacity/ https://electrek.co/2021/04/23/tesla-owners-stopped-going-on...

makomk 4y ago

I probably ought to have mentioned this in my original comment - China allowed companies to set up certain kinds of Chinese operations, such as manufacturing, by partnering with a local company and setting up a joint operation but they're a lot more restrictive about online information services. Operating those really is limited to wholely Chinese-owned and Chinese-operated companies as I understand it, joint partnerships with foreign companies are not permitted to run them. This includes things like the Chinese versions of AWS and iCloud, which are entirely operated by existing Chinese companies.