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Not the FCC, this is one FCC commissioner's statement. He's not the chair, nor is he part of the majority party, so you can probably read this as a political st

Not the FCC, this is one FCC commissioner's statement. He's not the chair, nor is he part of the majority party, so you can probably read this as a political statement. Republicans had a chance to ban TikTok during the last administration. They did not do it.

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elliekelly 4y ago
It annoys me that these headlines keep falsely attributing his statements to the FCC as a whole. I hate TikTok and I tend to agree that it’s a security risk (so, too, is Facebook, IMO). But this guy has it out for TikTok solely for political reasons and in order to please Trump.
- encryptluks2 4y ago
  To be fair, and I'm not fan of Trump, but if Trump hypothetically supported something good... like let's say universal healthcare, a lot of Democrats would oppose it just because Trump supported it.
  - jfengel 4y ago
    I don't see any meaningful way to talk about that hypothetical. Much of what Trump says is chosen specifically to enrage people, and Democrats in particular. Even if he chose to support, say, universal health care, it would be buried in so much deliberate harassment that there would be no way to arrive at a workable plan. The suggestion is so counterfactual that I just can't address it one way or the other. He achieved very little legislatively because he didn't really want anything except to anger people. The one thing he achieved is by appointing people to a lifetime office that isn't subjected to checks and balances -- and that accomplishes everything he might want.
    - zaroth 4y ago
      Perhaps the real world example of this is the price transparency laws that Trump pushed through. Whether democrats were staunchly against it, I don’t actually recall.
      - jfengel 4y ago
        Democrats were all for it. California has had a similar rule since 2004. Biden has been pushing hospitals to implement it: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/07/12/health-202-biden-says-he-enforce-trump-era-rules-requiring-hospitals-post-their-prices/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/07/12/health-20...
  - whateveracct 4y ago
    I'm pretty sure if Trump supported universal healthcare, people would get on board. The problem is 1) very few of his actual policies were good on the face of them and 2) even some of the milquetoast stuff he did had unsavory motivation. Realistically, any theoretical universal healthcare proposed by Trump would probably have strings attached that further eroded the functioning of the federal government (which is a common theme between pretty much all R legislation).
  - MisterBastahrd 4y ago
    No they wouldn't. There'd be a lot of Republicans who would be running around telling everyone how universal healthcare is actually a good thing now, but any Democratic concerns would mostly be tied to quibbles with process and taxation, not the healthcare itself.
  - tzs 4y ago
    Before Trump won the Republican nomination for 2016, during one of the debates against Rubio and Cruz and whoever else had not yet dropped out Trump actually brought up universal healthcare as a reason to support him over Cruz and Rubio, saying we'd get it under him and not under them.
    - unityByFreedom 4y ago
      Damn, I found this hard to believe so I looked it up [1], and you're right. It's like when Lois says "9/11" and everyone goes wild [2]. > Mr. Trump, you have said you want to appeal Obamacare. You have also said, quote, "Everybody's got to be covered," adding, quote, "The government's going to pay for it." Are you closer to Bernie Sanders' vision for health care than Hillary Clinton's? > TRUMP: I don't think I am. I think I'm closer to common sense. We are going to repeal Obamacare. > (APPLAUSE) [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/06/transcript-of-the-feb-6-gop-debate-annotated/#:~:text=Mr.%20Trump%2C%20you,to%20repeal%20Obamacare https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/06/tr.... [2] https://youtu.be/Rm3d43HLyTI?t=37 https://youtu.be/Rm3d43HLyTI?t=37

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elliekelly 4y ago

It annoys me that these headlines keep falsely attributing his statements to the FCC as a whole. I hate TikTok and I tend to agree that it’s a security risk (so, too, is Facebook, IMO). But this guy has it out for TikTok solely for political reasons and in order to please Trump.

encryptluks2 4y ago
To be fair, and I'm not fan of Trump, but if Trump hypothetically supported something good... like let's say universal healthcare, a lot of Democrats would oppose it just because Trump supported it.
- jfengel 4y ago
  I don't see any meaningful way to talk about that hypothetical. Much of what Trump says is chosen specifically to enrage people, and Democrats in particular. Even if he chose to support, say, universal health care, it would be buried in so much deliberate harassment that there would be no way to arrive at a workable plan. The suggestion is so counterfactual that I just can't address it one way or the other. He achieved very little legislatively because he didn't really want anything except to anger people. The one thing he achieved is by appointing people to a lifetime office that isn't subjected to checks and balances -- and that accomplishes everything he might want.
  - zaroth 4y ago
    Perhaps the real world example of this is the price transparency laws that Trump pushed through. Whether democrats were staunchly against it, I don’t actually recall.
    - jfengel 4y ago
      Democrats were all for it. California has had a similar rule since 2004. Biden has been pushing hospitals to implement it: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/07/12/health-202-biden-says-he-enforce-trump-era-rules-requiring-hospitals-post-their-prices/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/07/12/health-20...
- whateveracct 4y ago
  I'm pretty sure if Trump supported universal healthcare, people would get on board. The problem is 1) very few of his actual policies were good on the face of them and 2) even some of the milquetoast stuff he did had unsavory motivation. Realistically, any theoretical universal healthcare proposed by Trump would probably have strings attached that further eroded the functioning of the federal government (which is a common theme between pretty much all R legislation).
- MisterBastahrd 4y ago
  No they wouldn't. There'd be a lot of Republicans who would be running around telling everyone how universal healthcare is actually a good thing now, but any Democratic concerns would mostly be tied to quibbles with process and taxation, not the healthcare itself.
- tzs 4y ago
  Before Trump won the Republican nomination for 2016, during one of the debates against Rubio and Cruz and whoever else had not yet dropped out Trump actually brought up universal healthcare as a reason to support him over Cruz and Rubio, saying we'd get it under him and not under them.
  - unityByFreedom 4y ago
    Damn, I found this hard to believe so I looked it up [1], and you're right. It's like when Lois says "9/11" and everyone goes wild [2]. > Mr. Trump, you have said you want to appeal Obamacare. You have also said, quote, "Everybody's got to be covered," adding, quote, "The government's going to pay for it." Are you closer to Bernie Sanders' vision for health care than Hillary Clinton's? > TRUMP: I don't think I am. I think I'm closer to common sense. We are going to repeal Obamacare. > (APPLAUSE) [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/06/transcript-of-the-feb-6-gop-debate-annotated/#:~:text=Mr.%20Trump%2C%20you,to%20repeal%20Obamacare https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/06/tr.... [2] https://youtu.be/Rm3d43HLyTI?t=37 https://youtu.be/Rm3d43HLyTI?t=37