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Conversely, if you're an American in America who doesn't travel abroad what is the threat TikTok poses when compared to the FAANGs? Given the cozy relationship
by plugger 4y ago
Conversely, if you're an American in America who doesn't travel abroad what is the threat TikTok poses when compared to the FAANGs? Given the cozy relationship between the US and FAANGs I think it's possible to argue that unfettered government access to FAANG data is more of a threat (to the average US citizen) when compared to the Chinese government having access to your user data via TikTok. But I'm not set on any of this and would like to understand more.
- fsflover 4y ago>if you're an American in America who doesn't travel abroad what is the threat TikTok poses when compared to the FAANGs? They could intentionally influence the public opinion about anything, e.g., elections.
- RealStickman_ 4y agoI'm pretty sure Facebook's already been doing that the past few years.
- fsflover 4y agoTrue, but do you want more of it from a totalitarian government?
- ok123456 4y agoI trust China more than the Koch brothers.
- fsflover 4y agoYou trust them to do what?
- ok123456 4y agoNot do this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_activities_of_the_Koch_brothers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_activities_of_the_Ko... A healthy middle-class in America, with immediate needs like healthcare and housing met, is China's best interests as that means Americans have more money to spend on consumer goods. The Koch Brothers want to dismantle all the organs of state they don't approve of.
- fsflover 4y agoHow about these? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23480918 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23480918, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23506580 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23506580.
- ok123456 4y agoAnd the FBI backdoored skype to silently shut off encryption, back when it was truly peer-to-peer. China never did that to me.
- fsflover 4y agoSo you think fair elections are less important than your own security? You may have a problem after your country turns authoritarian, even if your computer is secure.
- ok123456 4y agoWe don't have "fair" elections after Citizen's United. We don't have "fair" elections after the FCC scrapped the Fairness Doctrine in the 80s under Regan. We don't have "fair" elections for the president since we don't directly elect the president. The scenario where china somehow designs a dastardly TikTok video that convinces---I'm sorry "manipulates"---young people to vote en mass in a way that somehow advances the national interests of China and against their own material concerns is remote. But, I'm not sure how that's worse than any other garden variety Super PAC, or billionaire debutante like Mike Bloomberg or Howard Schultz.
- plugger 4y agoyou mean like Cambridge Analytica and Facebook?
- cowtools 4y agoIt is not a threat to individual safety. It is a threat to the security of the nation at large.