> it's what you would expect from a group of largely white, upper class, me If you try to see everything through identarian lens, no wonder your picture comes

> it's what you would expect from a group of largely white, upper class, me If you try to see everything through identarian lens, no wonder your picture comes out skewed. > No matter when a life begins, the posters here on HN feel they will largely be unaffected So, you think we should shut up about it, because it's not for us to discuss such things. But you, yourself, do not. Because it's different for you, of course. You brought us the revelation of us being (statistically, because this is the only thing that matters) of wrong race and gender, and thus you are the exception from the rules. > vast political project that is underway, a project that cares not for philosophical arguments, because it really cares about control and obedience. Oh, you mean like we're being censored on every social network, deplatformed, fired from jobs for saying a wrong word at a wrong time, locked down, forced to surrender control of our movements, what we put into our bodies, what we wear, who we do business with, how we speak, how we teach our children? Constantly surveilled and monitored, and continuously gaslighted by our own government? Yeah, I feel you, I don't like that too. Not sure why you mentioned it out of the blue, but that's bad, I agree. But I have an idea. Maybe a bit less of power centralization would allow us to fight this control and obedience project? I mean, if the guys in control of it didn't have the power to tell the whole nation what to do - maybe they could demand less obedience and exercise less control? A wild thought, I know.