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Agreed that this has been going on for years and Congress has done nothing to date. But ... The Fourth Amendment Is Not For Sale Act, sponsored by Senators Wy

by jdp23 4y ago

Agreed that this has been going on for years and Congress has done nothing to date. But ... The Fourth Amendment Is Not For Sale Act, sponsored by Senators Wyden and Paul, has a hearing tomorrow morning -- and may actually have decent chance to pass Congress this session. If you're in the US, EFF's "Tell Congress: The Fourth Amendment Is Not For Sale" page has a web form to encourage your representatives to support the bill. https://act.eff.org/action/tell-congress-the-fourth-amendment-is-not-for-sale https://act.eff.org/action/tell-congress-the-fourth-amendmen...

nr2x 4y ago
I’ve just given up on the federal government. It stopped working for common people in any meaningful way a long time ago. State and local, sure, but federal? Why bother.
- Broken_Hippo 4y ago
  State is a longshot, depending on where you live and if your interests align with those in power. Being queer in a conservative area isn't going to get you results that keep you safe, and it is worse if your particular brand of queer is being trans. Transfolks aren't getting treated well from some state governments. Local? There is a serious lack of power that local politicians wield and most won't be able to help you with your issues.
- 616c 4y ago
  It is what you put into it? I won't get into detail but it is hard and thankless. Writing off all the public sector in the US is writing off the private sector BC of bad actors like the data marketers. Should we write them off entirely?
  - nr2x 4y ago
    Yes.
AinderS 4y ago
But I don't want private companies having this data either (on me, or others). Since we're barrelling full-speed towards corporate feudalism, I see this act as deflating the motivation to fix the root cause of the issue, and ultimately doing more harm than good. In this case (and many others), "the perfect is the enemy of the good" is inverted. Such as algorithmic suppression instead of censorship. Outright censorship would alert us that there is something wrong, mere suppression fools us into thinking the problem is minor.

by jdp23 4y ago

nr2x 4y ago

I’ve just given up on the federal government. It stopped working for common people in any meaningful way a long time ago. State and local, sure, but federal? Why bother.

Broken_Hippo 4y ago
State is a longshot, depending on where you live and if your interests align with those in power. Being queer in a conservative area isn't going to get you results that keep you safe, and it is worse if your particular brand of queer is being trans. Transfolks aren't getting treated well from some state governments. Local? There is a serious lack of power that local politicians wield and most won't be able to help you with your issues.
616c 4y ago
It is what you put into it? I won't get into detail but it is hard and thankless. Writing off all the public sector in the US is writing off the private sector BC of bad actors like the data marketers. Should we write them off entirely?
- nr2x 4y ago
  Yes.

AinderS 4y ago

But I don't want private companies having this data either (on me, or others). Since we're barrelling full-speed towards corporate feudalism, I see this act as deflating the motivation to fix the root cause of the issue, and ultimately doing more harm than good. In this case (and many others), "the perfect is the enemy of the good" is inverted. Such as algorithmic suppression instead of censorship. Outright censorship would alert us that there is something wrong, mere suppression fools us into thinking the problem is minor.