3 ms·

1. Is just generally not really true. They are referencing debunked science. My strong suspicion is that these communities probably drink the same or less than

1. Is just generally not really true. They are referencing debunked science. My strong suspicion is that these communities probably drink the same or less than average overall. 2. Carbs are unfairly vilified. Unless you are doing something very particular like keto or you are a powerlifter or something then a big majority your diet should be carbs. You need just a bit of fat and a bit of protein. But not all carbs are created equal. They probably aren't slamming back a liter of coke a day.

bscphil 4y ago
Re 1: the "average" may not matter all that much. The study's suggested 2 drinks per day is the same as the American average, which according to some web sources I found is 1.94 drinks per day (among adults). [1] The difference may be that the variance is not that high. 16% of Americans binge drink [2], which drags the average up - a significant plurality doesn't drink at all. The truth in this case could be consistency. No binge drinkers, a consistent level of wine purchasing indicating a high level of wealth in the community. [1] https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/12/28/how-many-alcoholic-drinks-too-many-per-week/822604001/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/12/28/ho... [2] https://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/data-stats.htm https://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/data-stats.htm
- wyclif 4y ago
  FWIW, it's not hard to buy Cannonau: https://www.totalwine.com/wine/red-wine/cannonau/c/000236 https://www.totalwine.com/wine/red-wine/cannonau/c/000236
  - bscphil 4y ago
    Looked this up. A standard serving of wine is 5 fl oz. Two servings a day makes 10 fl oz, and let's say we're talking about a household of two adults for 20 fl oz. At $20 per 750 mL bottle, that's $15.77 a day or about $5757 a year. I think that's well beyond the range of affordability for the median household, even in wealthy countries like the United States.
    - wyclif 4y ago
      I think in the Mediterranean region it's more like one serving a day on average.
kfajdsl 4y ago
AFAIK low carb diets are generally good when you are largely sedentary (like most Americans). If you're active, you probably want to be eating your carbs.

bscphil 4y ago

Re 1: the "average" may not matter all that much. The study's suggested 2 drinks per day is the same as the American average, which according to some web sources I found is 1.94 drinks per day (among adults). [1] The difference may be that the variance is not that high. 16% of Americans binge drink [2], which drags the average up - a significant plurality doesn't drink at all. The truth in this case could be consistency. No binge drinkers, a consistent level of wine purchasing indicating a high level of wealth in the community. [1] https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/12/28/how-many-alcoholic-drinks-too-many-per-week/822604001/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/12/28/ho... [2] https://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/data-stats.htm https://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/data-stats.htm

wyclif 4y ago
FWIW, it's not hard to buy Cannonau: https://www.totalwine.com/wine/red-wine/cannonau/c/000236 https://www.totalwine.com/wine/red-wine/cannonau/c/000236
- bscphil 4y ago
  Looked this up. A standard serving of wine is 5 fl oz. Two servings a day makes 10 fl oz, and let's say we're talking about a household of two adults for 20 fl oz. At $20 per 750 mL bottle, that's $15.77 a day or about $5757 a year. I think that's well beyond the range of affordability for the median household, even in wealthy countries like the United States.
  - wyclif 4y ago
    I think in the Mediterranean region it's more like one serving a day on average.

kfajdsl 4y ago

AFAIK low carb diets are generally good when you are largely sedentary (like most Americans). If you're active, you probably want to be eating your carbs.