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> If I had to use either of these things as part of running my team of 12 engineers, I'd resign immediately. Better for you and better for the team! Cause I wo

by ajkjk 4y ago

> If I had to use either of these things as part of running my team of 12 engineers, I'd resign immediately. Better for you and better for the team! Cause I wouldn't want to work with someone who would do that.

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- ajkjk 4y ago
  I like Slack. As far as I know most developers who are not total curmudgeons do. It's really pretty nice. > Don't you feel bad about working for a firm that exists merely to exploit dumb content creators No? I used Dropbox for years before I worked here. I would feel dumb to _not_ use a ready-made solution for backups and instead roll something complicated and error-prone myself. I simply do not care in the slightest about backups or figuring out how to make them work. Honestly my happiness is proportional to how many months it has been since I had to write a shell script.
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    - ajkjk 4y ago
      Uncivility is really not welcome on this site, and there's no point engaging with it anyway.
      - AndrewUnmuted 4y ago
        You began your engagement with me by saying that if I resigned from my current position, it would be best for the company and for the team of direct reports I manage. Is this a good example to follow if I want to be civil on Hacker News? Or perhaps, are you suggesting you're actually the one at fault here? Would it be fair to say that given your advice, I should not have said anything back to you in the first place? I cackle at the notion that "uncivility" (sic) is not welcome, and that one should not engage with it. You just got done telling me that the extreme incivility forced upon workplaces all over the globe by horrible companies that force their engineers to utilize horseshit like Dropbox, Slack, and Microsoft was desirable. In fact, you claimed it was more worthwhile than retaining a competent manager who cares deeply about the happiness of his direct reports and in so doing, eschews such needless garbage with extremely positive results.

by ajkjk 4y ago

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ajkjk 4y ago
I like Slack. As far as I know most developers who are not total curmudgeons do. It's really pretty nice. > Don't you feel bad about working for a firm that exists merely to exploit dumb content creators No? I used Dropbox for years before I worked here. I would feel dumb to _not_ use a ready-made solution for backups and instead roll something complicated and error-prone myself. I simply do not care in the slightest about backups or figuring out how to make them work. Honestly my happiness is proportional to how many months it has been since I had to write a shell script.
- AndrewUnmuted 4y ago
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  - ajkjk 4y ago
    Uncivility is really not welcome on this site, and there's no point engaging with it anyway.
    - AndrewUnmuted 4y ago
      You began your engagement with me by saying that if I resigned from my current position, it would be best for the company and for the team of direct reports I manage. Is this a good example to follow if I want to be civil on Hacker News? Or perhaps, are you suggesting you're actually the one at fault here? Would it be fair to say that given your advice, I should not have said anything back to you in the first place? I cackle at the notion that "uncivility" (sic) is not welcome, and that one should not engage with it. You just got done telling me that the extreme incivility forced upon workplaces all over the globe by horrible companies that force their engineers to utilize horseshit like Dropbox, Slack, and Microsoft was desirable. In fact, you claimed it was more worthwhile than retaining a competent manager who cares deeply about the happiness of his direct reports and in so doing, eschews such needless garbage with extremely positive results.