> who they are talking about when they say "the elites" b Not the OP but I understand as "the elites" the people who hold the reins of power in the West (I don

> who they are talking about when they say "the elites" b Not the OP but I understand as "the elites" the people who hold the reins of power in the West (I don't know that much about the Chinese or Indian elites, to be honest). That would be multi-billionaires, some national-level politicians, the higher-ups of some supra-state entities (things like the World Bank, the IMF, even the European Union), some recognisable "artists" who are used mostly for propaganda material (think Hollywood actors like Matthew McConaughey, Di Caprio and the like) and last but definitely not least, members of the defence and security apparatus (even though I have lately started having my doubts about anyone higher-up at the Pentagon or at NATO actually thinking for himself). Ah, I had forgotten, also some media people, too many to name, the most recent that comes to mind is this marvellous Guardian journo named Simon Tisdall that just this weekend had proposed that the West should attack Russia [1] so that we'd all get, well, blasted by nuclear strikes. But the journos are mostly tools, truth be told. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jul/17/putin-is-already-at-war-with-europe-there-is-only-one-way-to-stop-him https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jul/17/putin-...