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recent graeber/wengrow research shows your understanding of human progress is way out of date

• whimsicalism 4y ago
  Care to elaborate?
  • mc32 4y ago
    I think they aim to say that ancients weren't dumb dullards. Which I don't think people are saying they were so. We're saying that to get where we are took as long as it took humanity to get where we are (Outside of some fabulous thinking that there existed "modern" historical societies that disappeared). When Hobbes said life would be 'solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short' he was referring to life outside of the outcast's society.
    • wahnfrieden 4y ago
      speaking more to the progress part
  • dataflow 4y ago
    I haven't really read it to know the relevance, but I think this is the article: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/11/graeber-wengrow-dawn-of-everything-history-humanity/620177/ https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/11/graeber...
    • whimsicalism 4y ago
      The author of that article would not know a steelman if it hit them in the face. The "conventional account" of human history they describe is one that I personally have never heard espoused and I am not quite sure if anyone really ever believed. I think I would prefer to read the general source material, I find professional "essayists" often tiresome to read.
      • wahnfrieden 4y ago
        “the dawn of everything”, or you can find papers they’ve published