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No it isn't, laws are made for the people. There is no such thing as natural human rights. It's something that gets redefined by the dominant cultures constant

No it isn't, laws are made for the people. There is no such thing as natural human rights. It's something that gets redefined by the dominant cultures constantly. If Christians want to live under Biblical Law, let them. if Muslims want to live under Sharia, let them. If Jews want to live under Jewish Laws, let them.

Spooky23 4y ago
My neighbors are observant Jews. They obey lots of rules and check in the uruv before leaving their homes when applicable. They don’t make me follow their rules. But they are still subject to civil laws.
tsimionescu 4y ago
There absolutely is such a thing as natural human rights. Some are known since ancient times, some have been discovered more recently, and some are probably not well known or understood yet. But there are certain rights that humans and other beings musg have for any society to function well in an objective sense. Most religions trample on most of the rights that we now understand to be fundamental, so theocraies are something to be despised and feared. To be very clear: religious belief and practice, as long as it is not imposed on non-believers, is not a problem. The imposition of your religious beliefs on others - theocracy - is the problem.
- fleddr 4y ago
  Technically, the poster is still correct: there's no such thing as "natural" human rights. Rights do not exist in material reality, they're entirely cultural and thus made up. Not even the international declaration of human rights is signed by all countries. Rights are not given, they are political and need to be declared and defended, constantly.
jandrese 4y ago
If people voluntarily give up their rights in order to feel a sense of belonging with a religion that is their prerogative. It is not fine for those people to attempt to enforce those restrictions on people outside of their religion. If those people are causing actual harm to the community then it should be brought up through the secular legal process where lawmakers will weigh the harm to the community vs. the harm to personal liberty before deciding if the law is worth it.

Spooky23 4y ago

My neighbors are observant Jews. They obey lots of rules and check in the uruv before leaving their homes when applicable. They don’t make me follow their rules. But they are still subject to civil laws.

tsimionescu 4y ago

There absolutely is such a thing as natural human rights. Some are known since ancient times, some have been discovered more recently, and some are probably not well known or understood yet. But there are certain rights that humans and other beings musg have for any society to function well in an objective sense. Most religions trample on most of the rights that we now understand to be fundamental, so theocraies are something to be despised and feared. To be very clear: religious belief and practice, as long as it is not imposed on non-believers, is not a problem. The imposition of your religious beliefs on others - theocracy - is the problem.

fleddr 4y ago
Technically, the poster is still correct: there's no such thing as "natural" human rights. Rights do not exist in material reality, they're entirely cultural and thus made up. Not even the international declaration of human rights is signed by all countries. Rights are not given, they are political and need to be declared and defended, constantly.

jandrese 4y ago

If people voluntarily give up their rights in order to feel a sense of belonging with a religion that is their prerogative. It is not fine for those people to attempt to enforce those restrictions on people outside of their religion. If those people are causing actual harm to the community then it should be brought up through the secular legal process where lawmakers will weigh the harm to the community vs. the harm to personal liberty before deciding if the law is worth it.