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Humans created the religions, so yes, the culprits are humans. Like everything, we (humans) created everything, with tech and science, not God. But the point th

Humans created the religions, so yes, the culprits are humans. Like everything, we (humans) created everything, with tech and science, not God. But the point that 4 in 10 Americans believe it’s God the “creator”, is absurd to me.

mdp2021 4y ago
What I said was different, and I quoted that «one of the biggest troubles of the world»: those "«troubles»" are not inherent in disciplines: they are inherent to human faults and «pretext[ual]» instances behind façades. You can normally leave disciplines alone. If you find demographics "unbelievable" you probably have only moderate acquaintance with those distributions. Do not forget Pareto and Gini on the one hand, transversality on the other.
- giuliomagnifico 4y ago
  > those "«troubles»" are not inherent in disciplines: they are inherent to human faults and «pretext[ual]» instances behind façades. You can normally leave disciplines alone Okay, then I've only misunderstood your reply, I didn't mean to say that religion itself is to blame, obviously. I agree with you, I just want to say that the trouble for me, is people who need to believe in something without thinking or using rationality.
  - mdp2021 4y ago
    > without thinking or using rationality Check the OECD studies on adult literacy. Education is very terribly weak all around the world on average. Success stories involve Japan and Finland, little else - and yet they are quite relative, and exceptions to aggregate success can be found (and other conflicting aggregates). The studies are carried on by Canada - and yet you can find recordings in which Canadian students sub-intellectually act like hooligans during university seminars, carried on by professor that patently /act/ human while being factually bestial. And education gets hindered and hampered in social contexts affected by past faults (you need well educated educators): it is another organic contexts which takes time and care to develop - nothing really easy and fast.

mdp2021 4y ago

What I said was different, and I quoted that «one of the biggest troubles of the world»: those "«troubles»" are not inherent in disciplines: they are inherent to human faults and «pretext[ual]» instances behind façades. You can normally leave disciplines alone. If you find demographics "unbelievable" you probably have only moderate acquaintance with those distributions. Do not forget Pareto and Gini on the one hand, transversality on the other.

giuliomagnifico 4y ago
> those "«troubles»" are not inherent in disciplines: they are inherent to human faults and «pretext[ual]» instances behind façades. You can normally leave disciplines alone Okay, then I've only misunderstood your reply, I didn't mean to say that religion itself is to blame, obviously. I agree with you, I just want to say that the trouble for me, is people who need to believe in something without thinking or using rationality.
- mdp2021 4y ago
  > without thinking or using rationality Check the OECD studies on adult literacy. Education is very terribly weak all around the world on average. Success stories involve Japan and Finland, little else - and yet they are quite relative, and exceptions to aggregate success can be found (and other conflicting aggregates). The studies are carried on by Canada - and yet you can find recordings in which Canadian students sub-intellectually act like hooligans during university seminars, carried on by professor that patently /act/ human while being factually bestial. And education gets hindered and hampered in social contexts affected by past faults (you need well educated educators): it is another organic contexts which takes time and care to develop - nothing really easy and fast.