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Exactly, they should have reached out to the closed public libraries and come to an agreement where they lent out digital copies 1:1 of copies owned by closed l

Exactly, they should have reached out to the closed public libraries and come to an agreement where they lent out digital copies 1:1 of copies owned by closed libraries. It would have been an incredible initiative that could have become sustainable well past the pandemic.

wmf 4y ago
they lent out digital copies 1:1 of copies owned by closed libraries That would probably have triggered the same lawsuit. You cannot rent digital copies of physical works no matter how much sense it makes.
- Rebelgecko 4y ago
  IIRC, IA had already been doing that for years. This lawsuit is happening because they stopped limiting digital loans to the number of physical copies IA and their partners had on hand
- daniel_reetz 4y ago
  This is not as legally clear cut as you make it seem. There's plenty of legal discussion around the issue of format shifting books.
- Beldin 4y ago
  It possibly could have, but the circumstances would be significantly different. They did not impose any restrictions this time. If they hadc dinner it as GP suggests, they could easily argue that they made a fair and honest effort to not let closures in the physical world affect library availability. This probably still runs counter to copyright law. Were thr IA to lose such a case, the reasonableness of the approach in the face of such extraordinary circumstances would provide ample impetus to revaluate copyright legislation. Unlike the current situation. Basically: No one likes throwing the book at the heroes; if the bad guys force that, society may start rewriting the book.
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annoyingnoob 4y ago
> they should have reached out to the closed public libraries How exactly?
- corrral 4y ago
  Email? I expect managers of library systems were still checking their email even when their buildings were closed.
- dghlsakjg 4y ago
  Telephone, email, paper letter, door-knocking, carrier pigeon, paper airplane through a window, SMS, IP based messaging systems, linkedin, facebook messenger, verbally. The same way you get in touch with any other institution composed of people.
tgsovlerkhgsel 4y ago
That would have delayed the project by months though when it was most needed.

wmf 4y ago

they lent out digital copies 1:1 of copies owned by closed libraries That would probably have triggered the same lawsuit. You cannot rent digital copies of physical works no matter how much sense it makes.

Rebelgecko 4y ago
IIRC, IA had already been doing that for years. This lawsuit is happening because they stopped limiting digital loans to the number of physical copies IA and their partners had on hand
daniel_reetz 4y ago
This is not as legally clear cut as you make it seem. There's plenty of legal discussion around the issue of format shifting books.
Beldin 4y ago
It possibly could have, but the circumstances would be significantly different. They did not impose any restrictions this time. If they hadc dinner it as GP suggests, they could easily argue that they made a fair and honest effort to not let closures in the physical world affect library availability. This probably still runs counter to copyright law. Were thr IA to lose such a case, the reasonableness of the approach in the face of such extraordinary circumstances would provide ample impetus to revaluate copyright legislation. Unlike the current situation. Basically: No one likes throwing the book at the heroes; if the bad guys force that, society may start rewriting the book.
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annoyingnoob 4y ago

> they should have reached out to the closed public libraries How exactly?

corrral 4y ago
Email? I expect managers of library systems were still checking their email even when their buildings were closed.
dghlsakjg 4y ago
Telephone, email, paper letter, door-knocking, carrier pigeon, paper airplane through a window, SMS, IP based messaging systems, linkedin, facebook messenger, verbally. The same way you get in touch with any other institution composed of people.

tgsovlerkhgsel 4y ago

That would have delayed the project by months though when it was most needed.