Yeah, that's what I meant when I mentioned arguing the specifics. I agree that there are egalitarian extremisms that are pretty dystopic, though I think practic

Yeah, that's what I meant when I mentioned arguing the specifics. I agree that there are egalitarian extremisms that are pretty dystopic, though I think practice shows that only equality before law doesn't mean much by itself. If you ask me specifically, the extent is that everyone should have equal active participation in government and suffer no overwhelming pressure, physical, economic or otherwise from other people. Equality so that we can be free. This is more that we tend to have, but not necessarily in the "socialist" direction I think. To tie it back from an offtopic, this would make many AGI applications uneconomic, though likewise many enterprises are uneconomic if you have to pay your labor. Perhaps free societies, wherever they would be, would have the advantage of having free artificial minds acting in their actual self-interest, and not just serving their masters. You can see similar dynamic in late-18th century revolutionary wars.