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Your question isn't answerable in its current state due to some undefined terms. Can you describe what you mean by "soul"/"consciousness"?
by karpierz 4y ago
Your question isn't answerable in its current state due to some undefined terms. Can you describe what you mean by "soul"/"consciousness"?
- tboyd47 4y agoIt means whatever you want it to mean. Whatever you want to call it, the guy is a con man. How do you expose him?
- SketchySeaBeast 4y agoWell if we're playing a game of poorly defined terms to expose them I pants them and move on.
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- tboyd47 4y agoIs pulling people's pants down your normal response to using words that aren't well-defined?
- SketchySeaBeast 4y agoNo, but it's one way to expose them.
- tboyd47 4y agoI see what you're doing, and I like it :) But what I mean by expose is to reveal to people that this person is a liar. What I mean by "soul" or "consciousness" is the common usage of the term. Essentially, this person would be claiming that he can move a participant's essence or frame of view (with memories, personality, etc.) from a human body to a digital one. At least, that's how I would interpret it, and I don't think the average person would be that far off.
- karpierz 4y agoIt's undefined terms all the way down. "Soul", "consciousness", "essence", "frame of view", "personality", "memories" are all undefined terms. The question you really want unambiguously answered is "what the essence of a person?" For example, if you define "essence" as "the manner in which an agent interacts with the outside world", then provided you interact with people entirely via text chat, your "essence" could be uploaded (with a sufficiently advanced simulation). If you define "essence" as the "continuity of bodily processes that keep a human alive", then no, as your digital replica is not continuing your bodily functions. If you define "consciousness" as a "subjective" experience, then the question is unanswerable, precisely because you've left the measure of "consciousness" up to the "subject". In addition, your definition of "subject" becomes circular, because "subject X" is the agent with "consciousness X" and "consciousness X" is the experience that "subject X" goes through. So really, when you say "consciousness" is subjective, what you're doing is punting on how you tell what a "subject" is.
- tboyd47 4y agoRight, but that's missing the forest for the trees, isn't it? The implication of your answer is that you COULDN'T tell that the person is lying, because you'd be too lost in semantics to tell left from right. So, you fall victim to his charade.