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The thing is after spending a decade on AWS I'm hesitant to move to a different cloud. Like you are going to have to pay me a lot of money or give extremely gen

The thing is after spending a decade on AWS I'm hesitant to move to a different cloud. Like you are going to have to pay me a lot of money or give extremely generous credit and even then its a maybe. The greatest trick AWS pulled was convincing the world cloud needs to be complex and they succeeded. We have spent so much resources and time on it, its too painful to leave it. The only exception is some Google products like Firebase which clearly shine above the pile of burning trash that is Cognito. Perhaps some other products AI related I don't know about. Azure? Unless you are running .net from Visual Studios don't see why you need to be on it. Many generation of developers grew up not knowing what .net or Java is.

logifail 4y ago
> The greatest trick AWS pulled was convincing the world cloud needs to be complex and they succeeded. We have spent so much resources and time on it, its too painful to leave it. This bit made me wince, it's so true. "Concorde syndrome"[0], anyone? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost
- dinvlad 4y ago
  Same thing with Kubernetes and every other bit of enterprise software ever written. It's all rotten to the core with the same principle, even when the initial motives might've been pure.
tedivm 4y ago
I was tempted into running on GCP for some new projects and my experience completely turned me off to the platform. I ended up with a bug where the Google Webmaster Tools Domain Verification wasn't being picked up by GCP, but the only way for the service to issue an SSL certificate was via that domain verification. The domain verification itself worked fine, it was just that GCP couldn't read it. I mentioned this on twitter and a PM for the project lectured me about how I shouldn't use preview services and expect them to work and suggested I use a different service- one that was also in preview. That was my last attempt at using GCP.
RajT88 4y ago
If you could be construed in any way to be a competitor of Amazon (retail namely), you'd be crazy to pick Amazon, who is in the business of stealing their customer's lunch money at every level. You'll be surprised to learn that quite a lot of major companies running on Azure aren't Microsoft/.Net shops. Linux/Java workloads are very common. The tooling is pretty good for all that stuff too (nearing "First Class Citizen", but mayybe not quite).
tracker1 4y ago
Firebase just feels like the ultimate vendor lock-in though. I've tried really hard to minimize lock in... mostly to things that are easy enough to change/migrate... but RDBMS always PostgreSQL (pretty much all support it, can self host, cockroach and others as potential scaling options depending on how you use it). I really like the Azure Storage (Tables, Blobs, Queues) myself.. for small-mid usage, super cheap, simple, easy to completely replace if needed. Some of the more advanced stuff, seems like stuff to keep C-suite or SecOps people impressed.

logifail 4y ago

> The greatest trick AWS pulled was convincing the world cloud needs to be complex and they succeeded. We have spent so much resources and time on it, its too painful to leave it. This bit made me wince, it's so true. "Concorde syndrome"[0], anyone? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost

dinvlad 4y ago
Same thing with Kubernetes and every other bit of enterprise software ever written. It's all rotten to the core with the same principle, even when the initial motives might've been pure.

tedivm 4y ago

I was tempted into running on GCP for some new projects and my experience completely turned me off to the platform. I ended up with a bug where the Google Webmaster Tools Domain Verification wasn't being picked up by GCP, but the only way for the service to issue an SSL certificate was via that domain verification. The domain verification itself worked fine, it was just that GCP couldn't read it. I mentioned this on twitter and a PM for the project lectured me about how I shouldn't use preview services and expect them to work and suggested I use a different service- one that was also in preview. That was my last attempt at using GCP.

RajT88 4y ago

If you could be construed in any way to be a competitor of Amazon (retail namely), you'd be crazy to pick Amazon, who is in the business of stealing their customer's lunch money at every level. You'll be surprised to learn that quite a lot of major companies running on Azure aren't Microsoft/.Net shops. Linux/Java workloads are very common. The tooling is pretty good for all that stuff too (nearing "First Class Citizen", but mayybe not quite).

tracker1 4y ago

Firebase just feels like the ultimate vendor lock-in though. I've tried really hard to minimize lock in... mostly to things that are easy enough to change/migrate... but RDBMS always PostgreSQL (pretty much all support it, can self host, cockroach and others as potential scaling options depending on how you use it). I really like the Azure Storage (Tables, Blobs, Queues) myself.. for small-mid usage, super cheap, simple, easy to completely replace if needed. Some of the more advanced stuff, seems like stuff to keep C-suite or SecOps people impressed.