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> They can re-clock their brain to think faster than humans. What if the physical resources required are such that at human brain can be simulated 20 times slo

> They can re-clock their brain to think faster than humans. What if the physical resources required are such that at human brain can be simulated 20 times slower than a natural brain using the most powerful supercomputer? Almost certainly the first generations of the technology will be the ENIAC of mind simulation. > They can modify their own software to add in virtues and erase vices. If they understand it and if they have access. They can be sandboxed away from manipulating their innards, or maybe it's just too complicated for a human mind to comprehend and you need a whole organization of specialists to customize. And if science is advanced enough to figure out how to manipulate such high-level concepts on a synaptic level or below, they should be able to do that in a biological brain too. > And most importantly of all they are completely free from physical needs. If for some reason they desire scarcity or biological functions, that can all be simulated. I'm sorry, we're gonna have to shut you down for a while, we need to run some high-priority jobs. Hey, it could be worse, you might have to hustle to cover your AWS bills.

_def 4y ago
> What if the physical resources required are such that at human brain can be simulated 20 times slower than a natural brain using the most powerful supercomputer? I never thought about it, is it possible that accidentally torturing the first simulated consciousness is inevitable?
- chasd00 4y ago
  if the simulation was running 20x slower how would the simulation even know? Would it look at its setting and see cpu set to 20% instead of 100%? I don't know of any way for a "brain in a vat" or "matrix" style simulation to know if it was running at full speed or not.
- FrenchyJiby 4y ago
  This is hinted at in the linked "Lena" story: > [Uploaded person] initially reported extreme discomfort which was ultimately discovered to have been attributable to misconfigured simulated haptic links, and was shut down after only 7 minutes and 15 seconds of virtual elapsed time, as requested by [uploaded person]. > Nevertheless, the experiment was deemed an overwhelming success. This is lauded as the first time "running a brain", but regardless of the cause, the person was clearly in such pain ("discomfort") they asked to DIE (turn off the simulation).

_def 4y ago

> What if the physical resources required are such that at human brain can be simulated 20 times slower than a natural brain using the most powerful supercomputer? I never thought about it, is it possible that accidentally torturing the first simulated consciousness is inevitable?

chasd00 4y ago
if the simulation was running 20x slower how would the simulation even know? Would it look at its setting and see cpu set to 20% instead of 100%? I don't know of any way for a "brain in a vat" or "matrix" style simulation to know if it was running at full speed or not.
FrenchyJiby 4y ago
This is hinted at in the linked "Lena" story: > [Uploaded person] initially reported extreme discomfort which was ultimately discovered to have been attributable to misconfigured simulated haptic links, and was shut down after only 7 minutes and 15 seconds of virtual elapsed time, as requested by [uploaded person]. > Nevertheless, the experiment was deemed an overwhelming success. This is lauded as the first time "running a brain", but regardless of the cause, the person was clearly in such pain ("discomfort") they asked to DIE (turn off the simulation).