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No one is claiming mal anything - I was pointing out that the results are such that it doesn't really matter if it was done purposely or not. To get different r

No one is claiming mal anything - I was pointing out that the results are such that it doesn't really matter if it was done purposely or not. To get different results they would have to actively think and invest in support for alt OSes. So long as they don't do that it doesn't matter if they actively hinder or passively - you can't prove one way or the other anyways - all you can hope for is better results.

quesera 4y ago
I quote you: > doing everything they can to hinder others by using overly complicated hardware and firmware designs and breaking things That's malevolence. And it's completely certifiably and demonstrably false.
- blinkingled 4y ago
  You omitted "It looks like" before that sentence - for a person who is so bent on rigid meaning and precise wording omitting that part looks a little out of character :) Again you cannot really prove this from where you and me sit - so it is implied that even without "it looks like" I meant their externally visible actions / results make it looks like they go out of their way to hinder - that can be a combination of thoughtless hardware design and resolve to not help anyone else. And none of those are necessarily "malevolence" (which is a word you used) - it's just business practices.
  - quesera 4y ago
    Apologies for improperly excerpting your quote, if that was the determinate clause! ...but it does not look like they do those things either. You'd have to ignore all of the reasons it makes no sense for Apple to make decisions like that, in order to believe or even wonder about such a thing. If you had said "I wish Apple would work with Asahi to make their distro a full-fledged citizen on Apple's desirable hardware." ... then I would have upvoted your comment and moved on. Instead I saw you describing a hostile and active thwarting scenario, which is unfounded and nonsensical. I won't even address your "thoughtless hardware design and resolve not to help anyone else", except to say that ... you're doing it again, and you're still wrong.

quesera 4y ago

I quote you: > doing everything they can to hinder others by using overly complicated hardware and firmware designs and breaking things That's malevolence. And it's completely certifiably and demonstrably false.

blinkingled 4y ago
You omitted "It looks like" before that sentence - for a person who is so bent on rigid meaning and precise wording omitting that part looks a little out of character :) Again you cannot really prove this from where you and me sit - so it is implied that even without "it looks like" I meant their externally visible actions / results make it looks like they go out of their way to hinder - that can be a combination of thoughtless hardware design and resolve to not help anyone else. And none of those are necessarily "malevolence" (which is a word you used) - it's just business practices.
- quesera 4y ago
  Apologies for improperly excerpting your quote, if that was the determinate clause! ...but it does not look like they do those things either. You'd have to ignore all of the reasons it makes no sense for Apple to make decisions like that, in order to believe or even wonder about such a thing. If you had said "I wish Apple would work with Asahi to make their distro a full-fledged citizen on Apple's desirable hardware." ... then I would have upvoted your comment and moved on. Instead I saw you describing a hostile and active thwarting scenario, which is unfounded and nonsensical. I won't even address your "thoughtless hardware design and resolve not to help anyone else", except to say that ... you're doing it again, and you're still wrong.