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It is not healthy competition only for the Apple software team ... it is competition for every hardware manufacturer. Vendors must boost their game if they bran

by nicce 4y ago

It is not healthy competition only for the Apple software team ... it is competition for every hardware manufacturer. Vendors must boost their game if they brand themselves as decent Linux supporters, and Apple provides premium hardware which is also usable by Linux systems. Before Apple Silicon days, the primary motivation to buy Apple devices was the software side, but now the hardware has gone to the next level, and buying for the hardware alone is tempting.

AshamedCaptain 4y ago
> Vendors must boost their game if they brand themselves as decent Linux supporters, and Apple provides premium hardware which is also usable by Linux systems. Apple is practically the worst computer vendor when it comes to "decent Linux support"; even nvidia is better, at least they have proprietary drivers. It's quite a stretch to say that "vendors must boost their game if they brand themselves as decent Linux supporters"; rather, the conclusion here would be that vendors should drop their game altogether since no one cares. People, even Linux users and developers apparently, buy the hardware anyway even if the vendor just totally ignores Linux (at best). I would find it quite telling if we go back to that era where all I see are MacBooks at the Linux kernel developers conferences, specially when the other manufacturers are now most definitely not ignoring Linux. Fortunately, that is not the case, so far.
- nicce 4y ago
  I was applying more into the future than the current situation, in case Apple would start giving better support. Currently yes, Apple is the worst vendor. > rather, the conclusion here would be that vendors should drop their game altogether since no one cares. People, even Linux users and developers apparently, buy the hardware anyway even if the vendor just totally ignores Linux (at best). That's exactly the idea I was chasing - if Apple would care, then other vendors should care as well. But currently, Linux users are still in minority and it does not matter that much yet.

by nicce 4y ago

AshamedCaptain 4y ago

> Vendors must boost their game if they brand themselves as decent Linux supporters, and Apple provides premium hardware which is also usable by Linux systems. Apple is practically the worst computer vendor when it comes to "decent Linux support"; even nvidia is better, at least they have proprietary drivers. It's quite a stretch to say that "vendors must boost their game if they brand themselves as decent Linux supporters"; rather, the conclusion here would be that vendors should drop their game altogether since no one cares. People, even Linux users and developers apparently, buy the hardware anyway even if the vendor just totally ignores Linux (at best). I would find it quite telling if we go back to that era where all I see are MacBooks at the Linux kernel developers conferences, specially when the other manufacturers are now most definitely not ignoring Linux. Fortunately, that is not the case, so far.

nicce 4y ago
I was applying more into the future than the current situation, in case Apple would start giving better support. Currently yes, Apple is the worst vendor. > rather, the conclusion here would be that vendors should drop their game altogether since no one cares. People, even Linux users and developers apparently, buy the hardware anyway even if the vendor just totally ignores Linux (at best). That's exactly the idea I was chasing - if Apple would care, then other vendors should care as well. But currently, Linux users are still in minority and it does not matter that much yet.