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> endless meetings, constant micromanagement there are companies where this part is not true. We have one daily meeting. Engineers have < 3 other meetings the

> endless meetings, constant micromanagement there are companies where this part is not true. We have one daily meeting. Engineers have < 3 other meetings the rest of the week. It's usually zero outside of the daily. The daily standup is more a way to stay "real people" to each other instead of a picture in slack. We could easily do the standup async, but talking to each other each day is good for keeping solid relationships.

Clubber 4y ago
Daily standup are one of the stupidest things the industry has come up with in the last 20 years. It's all part of the scrum BS which is nothing but structured/obsessive micromanagement. We have 2 weekly meetings back to back. Biz/Dev then Dev/Dev, both combined usually total an hour. When we need to call someone, we call someone.
- tomtheelder 4y ago
  Eh I don't know, I think daily standup is pretty great actually. It seems like by far the most time effective way I've ever seen to resolve blocking and resourcing issues. Trying to do that asynchronously wastes way more time IMO. It's especially good that it's at a known time so you can plan around it.I think teams just get this really wrong and waste a ton of time. A good standup should take like 5 minutes. I'll happily admit that it works a lot worse in a remote setting because of the overhead of a call, but I still think it's much better than trying to solve those problems async. Also Scrum isn't about obsessive micromanagement at all. It's just an interface for engineering that the rest of the org can work with. Everyone else sees engineering as black box. Without a highly structured estimation and planning system eng is incredibly difficult to work with. Introducing some inefficiency within engineering to introduce clarity at the boundary is absolutely worth it for an org. Again, I think teams fuck scrum up pretty often, and like any process it can be, and often is, weaponized (eg: trying to use story points to measure velocity)

Clubber 4y ago

Daily standup are one of the stupidest things the industry has come up with in the last 20 years. It's all part of the scrum BS which is nothing but structured/obsessive micromanagement. We have 2 weekly meetings back to back. Biz/Dev then Dev/Dev, both combined usually total an hour. When we need to call someone, we call someone.

tomtheelder 4y ago
Eh I don't know, I think daily standup is pretty great actually. It seems like by far the most time effective way I've ever seen to resolve blocking and resourcing issues. Trying to do that asynchronously wastes way more time IMO. It's especially good that it's at a known time so you can plan around it.I think teams just get this really wrong and waste a ton of time. A good standup should take like 5 minutes. I'll happily admit that it works a lot worse in a remote setting because of the overhead of a call, but I still think it's much better than trying to solve those problems async. Also Scrum isn't about obsessive micromanagement at all. It's just an interface for engineering that the rest of the org can work with. Everyone else sees engineering as black box. Without a highly structured estimation and planning system eng is incredibly difficult to work with. Introducing some inefficiency within engineering to introduce clarity at the boundary is absolutely worth it for an org. Again, I think teams fuck scrum up pretty often, and like any process it can be, and often is, weaponized (eg: trying to use story points to measure velocity)