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> despite repeated attempts by neighbours to persuade the police to break down her door and check on her welfare The matter would've been resolved within minut

> despite repeated attempts by neighbours to persuade the police to break down her door and check on her welfare The matter would've been resolved within minutes if they claimed there were drugs within the flat.

rchaud 4y ago
Great idea, tell the cops that the building you live is a drug den. I'm sure they'll just pop the lock open and be on their merry way, never to bother residents again.
WastingMyTime89 4y ago
I too found that the most distressing part was that the police pretended to have talked to her in October 2020 after her death but that the Directorate of Professional Standards ruled there was no need for further inquiry into what the police did. Then again the English public has only itself to blame. It has always been the Tory playbook to make public services as inefficient as possible before defunding them. You get what you vote for.
- mytailorisrich 4y ago
  This is in London so I assume Met police, which PCC is effectively the Mayor. So if you want to bring party politics into it, the Mayor has been Labour since 2016.
  - MafellUser 4y ago
    While this is factual, the majority of Met police's funding comes from the Home office, which the Tory controls, and they've been in power since 2010.
    - mytailorisrich 4y ago
      Issues of standards are not really depending on funding but on organisation and leadership. The issue mentioned above, and many others that have made the news, are down to the Met police management and leadership, which is not supposed to be political. The Mayor is effectively the Police and Crime Commisioner so he has a direct involvement, and again is currently Labour if we want to assign political 'blame'. My point is that immediately blaming the Tories for everything and anyhting because "that's what you get when you vote Tory" is a knee jerk reaction.
      - efaref 4y ago
        > Issues of standards are not really depending on funding This is clearly not true, otherwise we could just cut all the funding and maintain the standards as they are.
        mytailorisrich 4y ago
        We're discussing standards or professional conduct. Funding gets you more police officers but their conduct depends on management and leadership, not on extra funding (at least as long as funding allows for decent salaries). In this case, and again others that have hit the news, funding is quite irrelevant, the issue is organisational.
MafellUser 4y ago
That's simply not true. Being very involved with Neighbourhood Watch and a CBV for the Met myself, I can tell you how many times residents reported drug dealings (with legitimate proofs and intel) vs the number of time the police actually did anything. There are 4 PCSOs, 1 PS and 1 PO covering over 17,000 household where I live. Effective policing is simply not possible, drug related or not.

rchaud 4y ago

Great idea, tell the cops that the building you live is a drug den. I'm sure they'll just pop the lock open and be on their merry way, never to bother residents again.

WastingMyTime89 4y ago

I too found that the most distressing part was that the police pretended to have talked to her in October 2020 after her death but that the Directorate of Professional Standards ruled there was no need for further inquiry into what the police did. Then again the English public has only itself to blame. It has always been the Tory playbook to make public services as inefficient as possible before defunding them. You get what you vote for.

mytailorisrich 4y ago
This is in London so I assume Met police, which PCC is effectively the Mayor. So if you want to bring party politics into it, the Mayor has been Labour since 2016.
- MafellUser 4y ago
  While this is factual, the majority of Met police's funding comes from the Home office, which the Tory controls, and they've been in power since 2010.
  - mytailorisrich 4y ago
    Issues of standards are not really depending on funding but on organisation and leadership. The issue mentioned above, and many others that have made the news, are down to the Met police management and leadership, which is not supposed to be political. The Mayor is effectively the Police and Crime Commisioner so he has a direct involvement, and again is currently Labour if we want to assign political 'blame'. My point is that immediately blaming the Tories for everything and anyhting because "that's what you get when you vote Tory" is a knee jerk reaction.
    - efaref 4y ago
      > Issues of standards are not really depending on funding This is clearly not true, otherwise we could just cut all the funding and maintain the standards as they are.
      - mytailorisrich 4y ago
        We're discussing standards or professional conduct. Funding gets you more police officers but their conduct depends on management and leadership, not on extra funding (at least as long as funding allows for decent salaries). In this case, and again others that have hit the news, funding is quite irrelevant, the issue is organisational.

MafellUser 4y ago

That's simply not true. Being very involved with Neighbourhood Watch and a CBV for the Met myself, I can tell you how many times residents reported drug dealings (with legitimate proofs and intel) vs the number of time the police actually did anything. There are 4 PCSOs, 1 PS and 1 PO covering over 17,000 household where I live. Effective policing is simply not possible, drug related or not.