> democracy There is a saying about what can be asserted without evidence can be likewise dismissed. But in this case there is even blatant empirical counter-e

> democracy There is a saying about what can be asserted without evidence can be likewise dismissed. But in this case there is even blatant empirical counter-evidence to send the argument on its way. The problem is that there is a gigantic time delay or even hysteresis between cause and effect. A dog will never understand punishment if the offense was long into the past. We are the dogs now.