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Why not just charge progressively until people go away? You know, something like average cost to keep house at 80F at cost, 75F more, 70F more, but nothing too

Why not just charge progressively until people go away? You know, something like average cost to keep house at 80F at cost, 75F more, 70F more, but nothing too extreme yet. Then start charging something like 10x cost over that. Miners should just disappear themselves after that.

bequanna 4y ago
Yea, this is load shedding and allows the utility to control certain appliances. The best example in my area is water heaters. The appliance and sometimes even the electricity is provided at a some discount but the power is disabled during peak usage. But I don't really see how you could incorporate the kind of complex pricing you describe. It would be too easy to cheat.
- silisili 4y ago
  Well they have similar things in place for basic charging more during peak hours and such, I guess I'm advocating for charging prohibitively more if found to be using way higher than normal amounts. Curious though, how would it be cheated? All of that said, a lot depends on the infrastructure. Most places I've lived still have dumb meters...which makes the idea rather moot.
lovich 4y ago
You get pure, naked capitalism at that point where the little old lady who can only pony up 50 dollars a month to keep the ac running at below deadly temperatures loses out to the aluminum smelter or cryptominer willing to pay 200/ month because they make a profit. This causes political problems because people like capitalism until they see grandmas dieing so someone can make extra widgets, but it’s the US so we can’t say capitalistic behaviors have to be regulated to prevent that situation, and we get crazily inefficient solutions in response
- silisili 4y ago
  The little old lady, in my case, would get power at cost to keep her home below 80F. Unless of course she's mining bitcoins or running a grow operation. I don't think power, or anything, should be highest bidder wins. But perhaps highest bidder wins above normal usage.
  - lovich 4y ago
    If she’s getting power at cost then she isn’t living under the capitalist system Texas claims to run under if there’s a single person or company willing to pay a penny more. That’s how that shit works. Texas is breaking down because they, for political reasons, want to claim they are capitalist but also for political reasons can’t admit to the consequences of living under such a system
    - mrguyorama 4y ago
      I'm not convinced they can't admit those consequences. Didn't their governor literally say grandma should sacrifice herself for the economy during the early pandemic? Grandmas literally died during the Texas grid failure but Fox News blamed it on "wind turbines" so I don't see the electorate caring enough to oust their otherwise popular political personalities.

bequanna 4y ago

Yea, this is load shedding and allows the utility to control certain appliances. The best example in my area is water heaters. The appliance and sometimes even the electricity is provided at a some discount but the power is disabled during peak usage. But I don't really see how you could incorporate the kind of complex pricing you describe. It would be too easy to cheat.

silisili 4y ago
Well they have similar things in place for basic charging more during peak hours and such, I guess I'm advocating for charging prohibitively more if found to be using way higher than normal amounts. Curious though, how would it be cheated? All of that said, a lot depends on the infrastructure. Most places I've lived still have dumb meters...which makes the idea rather moot.

lovich 4y ago

You get pure, naked capitalism at that point where the little old lady who can only pony up 50 dollars a month to keep the ac running at below deadly temperatures loses out to the aluminum smelter or cryptominer willing to pay 200/ month because they make a profit. This causes political problems because people like capitalism until they see grandmas dieing so someone can make extra widgets, but it’s the US so we can’t say capitalistic behaviors have to be regulated to prevent that situation, and we get crazily inefficient solutions in response

silisili 4y ago
The little old lady, in my case, would get power at cost to keep her home below 80F. Unless of course she's mining bitcoins or running a grow operation. I don't think power, or anything, should be highest bidder wins. But perhaps highest bidder wins above normal usage.
- lovich 4y ago
  If she’s getting power at cost then she isn’t living under the capitalist system Texas claims to run under if there’s a single person or company willing to pay a penny more. That’s how that shit works. Texas is breaking down because they, for political reasons, want to claim they are capitalist but also for political reasons can’t admit to the consequences of living under such a system
  - mrguyorama 4y ago
    I'm not convinced they can't admit those consequences. Didn't their governor literally say grandma should sacrifice herself for the economy during the early pandemic? Grandmas literally died during the Texas grid failure but Fox News blamed it on "wind turbines" so I don't see the electorate caring enough to oust their otherwise popular political personalities.