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I say whisk(e)y of any type lean towards the right, wine is left, steak can be a unifier, but chicken might get you called "soy".

codefreeordie 4y ago
"soy" (or, sometimes, "soi" when used as a prefix) turning into a derogatory name for a liberal among a certain right-wing subculture has a really interesting (to me, at least) history to it. Your list is interesting too -- I'd have claimed steak as a moderately right-wing food. Though it sorta depends. Filets, NY Strips, and Rib-eyes are pretty neutral, but T-Bone and Porterhouse steaks are more right-leaning. Certainly, anything "intentionally vegan" is a left-wing food. Chicken seems to be consumed by most everyone (as are eggs). Anything with tofu or other soy product (except soy sauce) is probably left-wing unless it is a dish from a region which has historically used it (especially if the tofu is a substitute for meat) -- so, for example, Agedashi Tofu is politically neutral, as is something like Mapo Tofu, but an Americanized sweet and sour tofu would be a little bit left, and any kind of "tofu steaks" or anything where the soy is a meat replacement is farther-left. Avocado is very slightly left. But, if you spread it on a toast with eggs, radishes, and microgreens making an Avocado Toast, it's now far-left. There's all kinds of really interesting nuance out there on the subject of partisan foods.
- mbg721 4y ago
  Avocado ceases to be left if you're Hispanic. Then all bets are off. Also, tofu cooked in any way that people who consume tofu on a regular basis actually eat it is slathered in ground meat, so leftists have something of a conundrum: the desire for shallow "authenticity" is pitted against the desire for hippieish veganism. It's a tough choice.
bee_rider 4y ago
Hey now, Jura (makes whisky) advertises on the Crooked Media Podcasts, so we can't accuse them of being right wing. Generally I think of whisk(e)y as having like all brown liquors, if anything, a bit of an elitist vibe but not really a left-right association.
- doublepg23 4y ago
  I find wine to have more of an elitist twinge vs whisk(e)y - bourbon especially. I don’t think a fifth of Wild Turkey 101 is particularly elitist.
  - bee_rider 4y ago
    All of the bourbons I've tried were too sweet, I didn't get into them. Although I guess it could be the case that, since I didn't like them at first, I never got to the good ones. So, I will be the likely ignorant gatekeeper and say, "yeah, I couldn't imagine being elitist about that weird syrup liquor."
    - doublepg23 4y ago
      That’s interesting. What kind of selection do you have? There’s a pretty big craze over the Buffalo Trace distillery lately. Their normal bottle - just called Buffalo Trace - is the most bourbon bourbon ever, and what I recommend as a benchmark (even if there are plenty of ‘better’ ones).
      - bee_rider 4y ago
        I don't remember, to be honest -- definitely something super mass market that I just picked up randomly. I'll check that one out, thanks.

codefreeordie 4y ago

"soy" (or, sometimes, "soi" when used as a prefix) turning into a derogatory name for a liberal among a certain right-wing subculture has a really interesting (to me, at least) history to it. Your list is interesting too -- I'd have claimed steak as a moderately right-wing food. Though it sorta depends. Filets, NY Strips, and Rib-eyes are pretty neutral, but T-Bone and Porterhouse steaks are more right-leaning. Certainly, anything "intentionally vegan" is a left-wing food. Chicken seems to be consumed by most everyone (as are eggs). Anything with tofu or other soy product (except soy sauce) is probably left-wing unless it is a dish from a region which has historically used it (especially if the tofu is a substitute for meat) -- so, for example, Agedashi Tofu is politically neutral, as is something like Mapo Tofu, but an Americanized sweet and sour tofu would be a little bit left, and any kind of "tofu steaks" or anything where the soy is a meat replacement is farther-left. Avocado is very slightly left. But, if you spread it on a toast with eggs, radishes, and microgreens making an Avocado Toast, it's now far-left. There's all kinds of really interesting nuance out there on the subject of partisan foods.

mbg721 4y ago
Avocado ceases to be left if you're Hispanic. Then all bets are off. Also, tofu cooked in any way that people who consume tofu on a regular basis actually eat it is slathered in ground meat, so leftists have something of a conundrum: the desire for shallow "authenticity" is pitted against the desire for hippieish veganism. It's a tough choice.

bee_rider 4y ago

Hey now, Jura (makes whisky) advertises on the Crooked Media Podcasts, so we can't accuse them of being right wing. Generally I think of whisk(e)y as having like all brown liquors, if anything, a bit of an elitist vibe but not really a left-right association.

doublepg23 4y ago
I find wine to have more of an elitist twinge vs whisk(e)y - bourbon especially. I don’t think a fifth of Wild Turkey 101 is particularly elitist.
- bee_rider 4y ago
  All of the bourbons I've tried were too sweet, I didn't get into them. Although I guess it could be the case that, since I didn't like them at first, I never got to the good ones. So, I will be the likely ignorant gatekeeper and say, "yeah, I couldn't imagine being elitist about that weird syrup liquor."
  - doublepg23 4y ago
    That’s interesting. What kind of selection do you have? There’s a pretty big craze over the Buffalo Trace distillery lately. Their normal bottle - just called Buffalo Trace - is the most bourbon bourbon ever, and what I recommend as a benchmark (even if there are plenty of ‘better’ ones).
    - bee_rider 4y ago
      I don't remember, to be honest -- definitely something super mass market that I just picked up randomly. I'll check that one out, thanks.