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> I hope you realize that China flat out lose this one? Not sure what you mean. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War https://en.m.wikipedia.org/

> I hope you realize that China flat out lose this one? Not sure what you mean. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War This is what referred in my comment. I cannot see how China lost it? Mind elaborate a bit? Quotes from Wikipedia: Although Vietnam continued to occupy Cambodia, China successfully mobilized international opposition to the occupation, rallying such leaders as Cambodia's deposed king Norodom Sihanouk, Cambodian anticommunist leader Son Sann, and high-ranking members of the Khmer Rouge to deny the pro-Vietnamese Cambodian People's Party in Cambodia China caused Vietnam to suffer from serious economic and military hardship by threatening to launch a second invasion, and by supporting Pol Pot guerrillas in Cambodia. Although unable to deter Vietnam from ousting Pol Pot from Cambodia, China demonstrated that its Cold War communist adversary, the Soviet Union, was unable to protect its Vietnamese ally.[19]

thriftwy 4y ago
That's fifthly embarrassing for you, Pol Pot is considered the most repressive dictatorship in history and I didn't even see attempts at debunking. "We've botched actual fighting but said we got what we wanted thanks to Pol Pot guerillas" is one of the most pathetic things I've ever read. Also, I think that to the rest of the world outside China, Vietnam has demonstrated that it can hold on its own with some help from its USSR ally.
- bigcat12345678 4y ago
  Not sure what you are talking about. I am talking about China's geopolitical objectives. As for Pol Pot's sadistic crazy butchering, that's a separate topic. If you want to discuss the moral objectives of China's wars, we can have another thread. I definitely have a lot to say as well.
  - thriftwy 4y ago
    China had a sadistic crazy butchering ally, they've failed to keep that ally regime from being toppled by Vietnam, China has invaded Vietnam but was met by stiff resistance and had to retreat (which looks much more like a defeat rather a draw, especially given the difference in size between parties) and of course China no longer had the Cambodia - Vietnam did not occupy it either but I'm not sure they seriously planned to. I'm really weak in that kind of history so I may get everything off, but that's what it looks from the outside.
    - bigcat12345678 4y ago
      Well that's part of the quotes from Wikipedia. This comment basically describes a part of the overall results. My conclusion still stands, China achieved its political goal: Vietnam got contained into its limited sphere of influence.

thriftwy 4y ago

That's fifthly embarrassing for you, Pol Pot is considered the most repressive dictatorship in history and I didn't even see attempts at debunking. "We've botched actual fighting but said we got what we wanted thanks to Pol Pot guerillas" is one of the most pathetic things I've ever read. Also, I think that to the rest of the world outside China, Vietnam has demonstrated that it can hold on its own with some help from its USSR ally.

bigcat12345678 4y ago
Not sure what you are talking about. I am talking about China's geopolitical objectives. As for Pol Pot's sadistic crazy butchering, that's a separate topic. If you want to discuss the moral objectives of China's wars, we can have another thread. I definitely have a lot to say as well.
- thriftwy 4y ago
  China had a sadistic crazy butchering ally, they've failed to keep that ally regime from being toppled by Vietnam, China has invaded Vietnam but was met by stiff resistance and had to retreat (which looks much more like a defeat rather a draw, especially given the difference in size between parties) and of course China no longer had the Cambodia - Vietnam did not occupy it either but I'm not sure they seriously planned to. I'm really weak in that kind of history so I may get everything off, but that's what it looks from the outside.
  - bigcat12345678 4y ago
    Well that's part of the quotes from Wikipedia. This comment basically describes a part of the overall results. My conclusion still stands, China achieved its political goal: Vietnam got contained into its limited sphere of influence.