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I think one of the issues is spoofing numbers is still not prevented by the miserable US telecoms. That allows these people to spoof calls and swat the target,

I think one of the issues is spoofing numbers is still not prevented by the miserable US telecoms. That allows these people to spoof calls and swat the target, worst case.

prvit 4y ago
Spoofing calls has literally nothing to do with swatting. The cops do not care which number the call comes from.
- muststopmyths 4y ago
  You’re kidding right? I can’t call the cops from my phone and say I’m XYZ and have killed my girlfriend and am going to kill more people. Literally TFA “ The police quickly traced the 415 number and determined that it belonged to Chris Eberle, a midlevel Netflix executive. When calls to the number went unanswered, the police descended in force. ”
  - prvit 4y ago
    I’m not kidding. You’re putting way too much faith in the article, most swatting calls are not spoofed. > I can’t call the cops from my phone and say I’m XYZ and have killed my girlfriend and am going to kill more people You totally can. You think the cops won’t show up with force if they get a call from a voip number or prepaid sim? They will. I’d argue that spoofing the victims number is in fact more likely to result in an unsuccessful swat, as the cops might end up calling you back and reaching the target. Fuck, kids have been swatting each other using TTS relays since at least the early 2000s.
prepend 4y ago
The article mentions Instagram DMs. I don’t think those could be spoofed. Law enforcement would have to care and Instagram would need to get a subpoena, but they should be able to provide a lot of info on the account that sent the message (geoip, behavior, etc).
- wonderbore 4y ago
  I think not many PDs would invest resources trying to avoid some private person’s username from being stolen. I’d be upset if it happened to me but I doubt anyone else would care.
  - prepend 4y ago
    I think the harassment would be what gets investigated. Especially including swatting. It seems like once law enforcement engaged it was quick since they arrested 3 days after someone died from a swat. But getting law enforcement to be interested is the problem.

I think one of the issues is spoofing numbers is still not prevented by the miserable US telecoms. That allows these people to spoof calls and swat the target, worst case.

prvit 4y ago

Spoofing calls has literally nothing to do with swatting. The cops do not care which number the call comes from.

muststopmyths 4y ago
You’re kidding right? I can’t call the cops from my phone and say I’m XYZ and have killed my girlfriend and am going to kill more people. Literally TFA “ The police quickly traced the 415 number and determined that it belonged to Chris Eberle, a midlevel Netflix executive. When calls to the number went unanswered, the police descended in force. ”
- prvit 4y ago
  I’m not kidding. You’re putting way too much faith in the article, most swatting calls are not spoofed. > I can’t call the cops from my phone and say I’m XYZ and have killed my girlfriend and am going to kill more people You totally can. You think the cops won’t show up with force if they get a call from a voip number or prepaid sim? They will. I’d argue that spoofing the victims number is in fact more likely to result in an unsuccessful swat, as the cops might end up calling you back and reaching the target. Fuck, kids have been swatting each other using TTS relays since at least the early 2000s.

prepend 4y ago

The article mentions Instagram DMs. I don’t think those could be spoofed. Law enforcement would have to care and Instagram would need to get a subpoena, but they should be able to provide a lot of info on the account that sent the message (geoip, behavior, etc).

wonderbore 4y ago
I think not many PDs would invest resources trying to avoid some private person’s username from being stolen. I’d be upset if it happened to me but I doubt anyone else would care.
- prepend 4y ago
  I think the harassment would be what gets investigated. Especially including swatting. It seems like once law enforcement engaged it was quick since they arrested 3 days after someone died from a swat. But getting law enforcement to be interested is the problem.