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Given that the vaccine itself is out of your system within a few days, and if effective begin triggering an immune response, I don’t think there’s not much reas

by ellisv 4y ago

Given that the vaccine itself is out of your system within a few days, and if effective begin triggering an immune response, I don’t think there’s not much reason to monitor for safety beyond that point.

logic_beats_pro 4y ago
It is a permanent change to your immune system which lasts forever. There is no "undo" button to getting these vaccines. Remember when it was claimed the spike protein is out of your body in 48 hours? This study found the spike protein persists in the body for at least 16 days and the antigen can be found for at least 60 days. https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(22)00076-9 https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(22)00076-9 Thats longer than if you actually contract COVID. So now knowing this, would you monitor for safety longer?
iratewizard 4y ago
Thalidomide is out of your system by your first grandchild.
- Zigurd 4y ago
  Thalidomide caused birth defects because it is in your system during pregnancy. Thalidomide is still in use to treat leprosy. Thalidomide does not cause second-generation birth defects.
  - NullPrefix 4y ago
    >Thalidomide does not cause second-generation birth defects. That's exactly what the parent commenter said. Your children are affected, but your first grandchildren should be safe.
    - Zigurd 4y ago
      The poster I responded to wrote: "Thalidomide is out of your system by your first grandchild." Actually, Thalidomide is out of your system within days. Quite a bit less time than it takes to have a grandchild. The poster implies that there could be unknown long term effects of a vaccine, and conflates long term effects with birth defects, which, of course, appear only after a fetus has developed enough to spot defects in a sonogram or other imaging. It's a scare tactic.
      - iratewizard 4y ago
        You call it a scare tactic because you believe in medical interventionism. I respectfully point out one of the massive numbers of unexpected side effects of medical interventions.
        Zigurd 4y ago
        Believe what you like. A thoughtfully considered medical intervention rescued my health. While patients need to be vigilant for errors and the best treatment is sometimes a matter of good fortune. there is no such things as "belief" in "medical interventionism." It makes as much sense as "weather forecastism" or "speed limitism."
        iratewizard 4y ago
        Maybe you should understand what medical interventionism means, before typing out a meaningless and unrelated argument.
        dktokyo 4y ago
        So if you break your arm…
        iratewizard 4y ago
        ... you go to a doctor to have it set and casted. Unless the break is so minor that you can self-treat with RICE. You don't have to be a passive recipient of a medical treatment flowchart.
pwned1 4y ago
Is it though?

by ellisv 4y ago

logic_beats_pro 4y ago

It is a permanent change to your immune system which lasts forever. There is no "undo" button to getting these vaccines. Remember when it was claimed the spike protein is out of your body in 48 hours? This study found the spike protein persists in the body for at least 16 days and the antigen can be found for at least 60 days. https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(22)00076-9 https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(22)00076-9 Thats longer than if you actually contract COVID. So now knowing this, would you monitor for safety longer?

iratewizard 4y ago

Thalidomide is out of your system by your first grandchild.

Zigurd 4y ago
Thalidomide caused birth defects because it is in your system during pregnancy. Thalidomide is still in use to treat leprosy. Thalidomide does not cause second-generation birth defects.
- NullPrefix 4y ago
  >Thalidomide does not cause second-generation birth defects. That's exactly what the parent commenter said. Your children are affected, but your first grandchildren should be safe.
  - Zigurd 4y ago
    The poster I responded to wrote: "Thalidomide is out of your system by your first grandchild." Actually, Thalidomide is out of your system within days. Quite a bit less time than it takes to have a grandchild. The poster implies that there could be unknown long term effects of a vaccine, and conflates long term effects with birth defects, which, of course, appear only after a fetus has developed enough to spot defects in a sonogram or other imaging. It's a scare tactic.
    - iratewizard 4y ago
      You call it a scare tactic because you believe in medical interventionism. I respectfully point out one of the massive numbers of unexpected side effects of medical interventions.
      - Zigurd 4y ago
        Believe what you like. A thoughtfully considered medical intervention rescued my health. While patients need to be vigilant for errors and the best treatment is sometimes a matter of good fortune. there is no such things as "belief" in "medical interventionism." It makes as much sense as "weather forecastism" or "speed limitism."
        iratewizard 4y ago
        Maybe you should understand what medical interventionism means, before typing out a meaningless and unrelated argument.
      - dktokyo 4y ago
        So if you break your arm…
        iratewizard 4y ago
        ... you go to a doctor to have it set and casted. Unless the break is so minor that you can self-treat with RICE. You don't have to be a passive recipient of a medical treatment flowchart.

pwned1 4y ago

Is it though?