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Hey all! Thanks to everyone for checking our prose! We just launched support for custom domains and plan to add image hosting shortly. We also have two siblin

by qudat 4y ago

Hey all! Thanks to everyone for checking our prose! We just launched support for custom domains and plan to add image hosting shortly. We also have two sibling services that leverage the same technology: - https://lists.sh https://lists.sh — microblog for lists - https://pastes.sh https://pastes.sh — pastebin Also happy to answer any questions!

carapace 4y ago
First, congratulations, this seems really cool. :) My question is, how are you going to deal with spam and, y'know, bad stuff? Related to that, how do you contact users without an email address? (I know it's possible, like you could send a custom banner, I'm curious about how you do it.)
- qudat 4y ago
  Spam and bad stuff: we are seeing if it’ll ever get to the scale that it’ll be an issue. Our hunch is since you have to use terminal tools to publish that it’ll weed out a lot of nefarious activity. Contacting users: this is a very interesting limitation that we want to see how far we can take it. Right now we have no way of contacting users and see that as a feature. Having said that we have an official blog (https://hey.prose.sh https://hey.prose.sh) with an RSS feed to notify users of updates.
  - ducktective 4y ago
    >since you have to use terminal tools to publish that it’ll weed out a lot of nefarious activity. Meanwhile: script kiddie copy-pasting noises
ezekg 4y ago
How does the SSH UI work? I thought that was pretty neat and a good way to give off a hacker vibe right off the bat.
- birktj 4y ago
  It seems like they are using [1] Wish [2], a library for "SSH apps" [1]: https://git.sr.ht/~erock/prose.sh/tree/main/item/cmd/ssh/main.go https://git.sr.ht/~erock/prose.sh/tree/main/item/cmd/ssh/mai... [2]: https://github.com/charmbracelet/wish https://github.com/charmbracelet/wish
  - ezekg 4y ago
    I didn’t know this was open source! Thanks.
dmix 4y ago
That’s great. Why not combine the three services into one? I’d like to sometimes post lists and pastebins on my blog? It’d be easier to login to one ssh and have a central website. Unless I missed something.
- qudat 4y ago
  Thanks for engaging! Right now we are experimenting with different services and seeing what sticks. We have lofty ideas of combining everything into one service or at least a service that aggregates them. We will chat about this idea in #pico.sh on libera so feel free to join the convo!
bicx 4y ago
Not to scare you, but I’m building the same thing in telnet rather than ssh. It won’t be slowed down by all that encryption and secured authentication.
- fragmede 4y ago
  That is scary. How much time do you think is spent on encryption and secured authentication, and why don’t you think they are worth it?
  - usrn 4y ago
    A lot if you're posting from your Apple ][. Users should really be signing their posts themselves anyway, not relying on authentication and vouching from a third party. Session authentication is kind of silly for blog posting IMO. The problem is that message authentication still isn't common so people just use session authentication since it's easy and it's what we have.
  - antholeole 4y ago
    I can’t help but think OP was being sarcastic
    - bicx 4y ago
      This is the correct answer
    - fragmede 4y ago
      lol. Fair point. I totally failed to see that possibility
xmonkee 4y ago
I am loving this. Just created my first blog post. 1) Lists and Prose seem identical. Is there an actual difference? 2) Is there a way to actually just paste in pastes.sh? Like, without having to create a local file. I guess I can do a FIFO or something but I hate having to google bash jujutsu commands
- qudat 4y ago
  1) Lists uses a plain text specification for creating lists. We could have built it using markdown but we wanted something extremely simple but readable as plain text. So there are subtle differences. Otherwise, the underlying tech is the same. 2) There is no way to just paste in pastes.sh. The idea behind it is you don't need to leave the terminal to generate a paste to share. There are alternative pastebins that do something similar but they require memorizing curl with authentication tokens and such.
modinfo 4y ago
Well even it's not bad and I like it, but it's not new at all I'm already tired of seeing projects that copy old ideas to make them work over SSH. But I tested it and it works, the cool thing is that I can edit my paste and the changes are visible as soon as I upload the file to the server. https://modinfo.pastes.sh/test.js https://modinfo.pastes.sh/test.js The only pity is that the title changes to capital letters and does not respect the original file title. It is nothing inoffensive, but respects for the creation. I like it but I don't know if I will use it, because you can have the same thing on a real SSH server for free, such as view-source:https://hashbang.sh/ https://hashbang.sh/. Only on hashbang.sh you have to set up nginx yourself and watch to see if your ssl certificate expires. So, I don't know if it makes sense to create such sites, if you have hashbang.sh? But, don't get me wrong, I checked it out and I like the service, you just don't have to worry about anything, just create content. Which is for lazy users than for "hackers".

by qudat 4y ago

carapace 4y ago

First, congratulations, this seems really cool. :) My question is, how are you going to deal with spam and, y'know, bad stuff? Related to that, how do you contact users without an email address? (I know it's possible, like you could send a custom banner, I'm curious about how you do it.)

qudat 4y ago
Spam and bad stuff: we are seeing if it’ll ever get to the scale that it’ll be an issue. Our hunch is since you have to use terminal tools to publish that it’ll weed out a lot of nefarious activity. Contacting users: this is a very interesting limitation that we want to see how far we can take it. Right now we have no way of contacting users and see that as a feature. Having said that we have an official blog (https://hey.prose.sh https://hey.prose.sh) with an RSS feed to notify users of updates.
- ducktective 4y ago
  >since you have to use terminal tools to publish that it’ll weed out a lot of nefarious activity. Meanwhile: script kiddie copy-pasting noises

ezekg 4y ago

How does the SSH UI work? I thought that was pretty neat and a good way to give off a hacker vibe right off the bat.

birktj 4y ago
It seems like they are using [1] Wish [2], a library for "SSH apps" [1]: https://git.sr.ht/~erock/prose.sh/tree/main/item/cmd/ssh/main.go https://git.sr.ht/~erock/prose.sh/tree/main/item/cmd/ssh/mai... [2]: https://github.com/charmbracelet/wish https://github.com/charmbracelet/wish
- ezekg 4y ago
  I didn’t know this was open source! Thanks.

dmix 4y ago

That’s great. Why not combine the three services into one? I’d like to sometimes post lists and pastebins on my blog? It’d be easier to login to one ssh and have a central website. Unless I missed something.

qudat 4y ago
Thanks for engaging! Right now we are experimenting with different services and seeing what sticks. We have lofty ideas of combining everything into one service or at least a service that aggregates them. We will chat about this idea in #pico.sh on libera so feel free to join the convo!

bicx 4y ago

Not to scare you, but I’m building the same thing in telnet rather than ssh. It won’t be slowed down by all that encryption and secured authentication.

fragmede 4y ago
That is scary. How much time do you think is spent on encryption and secured authentication, and why don’t you think they are worth it?
- usrn 4y ago
  A lot if you're posting from your Apple ][. Users should really be signing their posts themselves anyway, not relying on authentication and vouching from a third party. Session authentication is kind of silly for blog posting IMO. The problem is that message authentication still isn't common so people just use session authentication since it's easy and it's what we have.
- antholeole 4y ago
  I can’t help but think OP was being sarcastic
  - bicx 4y ago
    This is the correct answer
  - fragmede 4y ago
    lol. Fair point. I totally failed to see that possibility

xmonkee 4y ago

I am loving this. Just created my first blog post. 1) Lists and Prose seem identical. Is there an actual difference? 2) Is there a way to actually just paste in pastes.sh? Like, without having to create a local file. I guess I can do a FIFO or something but I hate having to google bash jujutsu commands

qudat 4y ago
1) Lists uses a plain text specification for creating lists. We could have built it using markdown but we wanted something extremely simple but readable as plain text. So there are subtle differences. Otherwise, the underlying tech is the same. 2) There is no way to just paste in pastes.sh. The idea behind it is you don't need to leave the terminal to generate a paste to share. There are alternative pastebins that do something similar but they require memorizing curl with authentication tokens and such.

modinfo 4y ago

Well even it's not bad and I like it, but it's not new at all I'm already tired of seeing projects that copy old ideas to make them work over SSH. But I tested it and it works, the cool thing is that I can edit my paste and the changes are visible as soon as I upload the file to the server. https://modinfo.pastes.sh/test.js https://modinfo.pastes.sh/test.js The only pity is that the title changes to capital letters and does not respect the original file title. It is nothing inoffensive, but respects for the creation. I like it but I don't know if I will use it, because you can have the same thing on a real SSH server for free, such as view-source:https://hashbang.sh/ https://hashbang.sh/. Only on hashbang.sh you have to set up nginx yourself and watch to see if your ssl certificate expires. So, I don't know if it makes sense to create such sites, if you have hashbang.sh? But, don't get me wrong, I checked it out and I like the service, you just don't have to worry about anything, just create content. Which is for lazy users than for "hackers".