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To be precise, the blue camp is also a right/far-right party because it wants the gov to control more and more things. I don't even know if we have a party or a

by akomtu 4y ago

To be precise, the blue camp is also a right/far-right party because it wants the gov to control more and more things. I don't even know if we have a party or a faction with the mission "more rights to the people".

IndoorPatio 4y ago
The democratic party in the US spans center-left to center-right and is expressly in favor of more rights to the people for common concerns like who a person is allowed to have sex with, marry, and choose to reproduce with (or not).
- akomtu 4y ago
  Protecting same-sex couples is a noble cause, but it's a concern for a tiny minority. Abortion is in the same boat. In return Dems want gun control and speech control - both issues concern the majority. And that's why the Dems are losing.
  - presshardreset 4y ago
  - IndoorPatio 4y ago
    The majority of people in the US want gun safety measures supported by Democrats. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/most-americans-support-stricter-gun-laws-new-poll-says https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/most-americans-support... "Speech control" is not a thing. There is no policy being proposed by democrats which restricts speech. Protecting the rights of individuals is not just a concern for those individuals: * 71% of people surveyed in the US support gay marriage in 2022. https://news.gallup.com/poll/393197/same-sex-marriage-support-inches-new-high.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/393197/same-sex-marriage-suppor... * 71% of people surveyed in the US support keeping the government out of abortion decisions. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/broad-us-support-abortion-rights-odds-with-supreme-courts-restrictions-2022-06-24/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us/broad-us-support-abortion-r...
    - akomtu 4y ago
      We'll see the real support numbers in November. As fir those surveys, I can conduct a survey where precisely 71% will support ktulhu. With another survey the same day I can get 71% to reject ktulhu. Surveys is a cheap form of consent manufacturing, with a few rare exceptions.
michaelmrose 4y ago
That isn't what "right" means in the context of American politics. Furthermore although both actions are or can be coercive we tend to distinguish between actions that establish positive rights like keeping your employer from firing you for being gay and actions that take them away like preventing one from terminating their pregnancy.

by akomtu 4y ago

IndoorPatio 4y ago

The democratic party in the US spans center-left to center-right and is expressly in favor of more rights to the people for common concerns like who a person is allowed to have sex with, marry, and choose to reproduce with (or not).

akomtu 4y ago
Protecting same-sex couples is a noble cause, but it's a concern for a tiny minority. Abortion is in the same boat. In return Dems want gun control and speech control - both issues concern the majority. And that's why the Dems are losing.
- presshardreset 4y ago
- IndoorPatio 4y ago
  The majority of people in the US want gun safety measures supported by Democrats. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/most-americans-support-stricter-gun-laws-new-poll-says https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/most-americans-support... "Speech control" is not a thing. There is no policy being proposed by democrats which restricts speech. Protecting the rights of individuals is not just a concern for those individuals: * 71% of people surveyed in the US support gay marriage in 2022. https://news.gallup.com/poll/393197/same-sex-marriage-support-inches-new-high.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/393197/same-sex-marriage-suppor... * 71% of people surveyed in the US support keeping the government out of abortion decisions. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/broad-us-support-abortion-rights-odds-with-supreme-courts-restrictions-2022-06-24/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us/broad-us-support-abortion-r...
  - akomtu 4y ago
    We'll see the real support numbers in November. As fir those surveys, I can conduct a survey where precisely 71% will support ktulhu. With another survey the same day I can get 71% to reject ktulhu. Surveys is a cheap form of consent manufacturing, with a few rare exceptions.

michaelmrose 4y ago

That isn't what "right" means in the context of American politics. Furthermore although both actions are or can be coercive we tend to distinguish between actions that establish positive rights like keeping your employer from firing you for being gay and actions that take them away like preventing one from terminating their pregnancy.