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I don't agree with him. Continuing with Nuclear just for geopolitical reasons is only a stopgap. No country except finland has a permanent storage option for w

I don't agree with him. Continuing with Nuclear just for geopolitical reasons is only a stopgap. No country except finland has a permanent storage option for waste, and I think it's very admirable that Germany is going nuclear-free. It's just as unsustainable as fossil fuels, it's just on a much longer timeframe so we can push it forward. The current climate crisis shows what that leads to. And it could be that those fuel rod offers were refused for a technical reason or something. It feels a bit like we're only getting one side of the story here.

TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
Why would you store it? You can recycle it https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/frances-efficiency-in-the-nuclear-fuel-cycle-what-can-oui-learn https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/frances-efficiency-in-t...
- nl 4y ago
  This is only one type of waste. > Through recycling, up to 96% of the reusable material in spent fuel can be recovered. That 4% is still substantial and very long lived (10,000 year+)
AinderS 4y ago
> It's just as unsustainable as fossil fuels, it's just on a much longer timeframe What good is solving nuclear waste storage that might become a problem in a thousand years, if we are done in by global warming (which nuclear can help offset) in a hundred?
- GekkePrutser 4y ago
  I just don't think it's a good idea exchanging a long-term problem with an longer-term problem. It's like paying off a loan with other loans. And we're not going to be extinct from global warming. It's a huge unprecedented problem but nobody said it's going to wipe us out.
Schroedingersat 4y ago
Also it's a major step brackwards geopolitically unless you're Russia, USA, UK, or France.
CRConrad 4y ago
> It's just as unsustainable as fossil fuels, it's just on a much longer timeframe so we can push it forward. In that case, solar energy isn't long-run sustainable either -- the sun is going to burn out in just a few billion years.
- GekkePrutser 4y ago
  No but that's a problem that's truly far away. Fuel is a problem now and it will be for 10.000 years. Considering we've never had a civilisation last more than a few hundred, and we haven't been able to live even a hundred without major wars, this is really a problem IMO.
  - CRConrad 4y ago
    > Considering we've never had a civilisation last more than a few hundred [years] ... Huh? Current "Western" (= more or less global) civilisation is a direct continuation (via the Renaissance and Enlightenment) of medieval European civilisation, which was a pretty direct continuation (via "Dark ages" and Migration Era) of antique Graeco-Roman civilisation. So a couple millennia, not centuries.

TheLoafOfBread 4y ago

Why would you store it? You can recycle it https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/frances-efficiency-in-the-nuclear-fuel-cycle-what-can-oui-learn https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/frances-efficiency-in-t...

nl 4y ago
This is only one type of waste. > Through recycling, up to 96% of the reusable material in spent fuel can be recovered. That 4% is still substantial and very long lived (10,000 year+)

AinderS 4y ago

> It's just as unsustainable as fossil fuels, it's just on a much longer timeframe What good is solving nuclear waste storage that might become a problem in a thousand years, if we are done in by global warming (which nuclear can help offset) in a hundred?

GekkePrutser 4y ago
I just don't think it's a good idea exchanging a long-term problem with an longer-term problem. It's like paying off a loan with other loans. And we're not going to be extinct from global warming. It's a huge unprecedented problem but nobody said it's going to wipe us out.

Schroedingersat 4y ago

Also it's a major step brackwards geopolitically unless you're Russia, USA, UK, or France.

CRConrad 4y ago

> It's just as unsustainable as fossil fuels, it's just on a much longer timeframe so we can push it forward. In that case, solar energy isn't long-run sustainable either -- the sun is going to burn out in just a few billion years.

GekkePrutser 4y ago
No but that's a problem that's truly far away. Fuel is a problem now and it will be for 10.000 years. Considering we've never had a civilisation last more than a few hundred, and we haven't been able to live even a hundred without major wars, this is really a problem IMO.
- CRConrad 4y ago
  > Considering we've never had a civilisation last more than a few hundred [years] ... Huh? Current "Western" (= more or less global) civilisation is a direct continuation (via the Renaissance and Enlightenment) of medieval European civilisation, which was a pretty direct continuation (via "Dark ages" and Migration Era) of antique Graeco-Roman civilisation. So a couple millennia, not centuries.