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I'm SO glad you said this. We've been trying, for years, to hire more diverse, but if the resumes that come in are white male, that's the only pool we have to c
by Damogran6 4y ago
I'm SO glad you said this. We've been trying, for years, to hire more diverse, but if the resumes that come in are white male, that's the only pool we have to choose from.
Things are getting better, our T1 and T2 incident responders are more diverse, and our Data Scientist positions were much easier to fill from a diversity standpoint.
- alldayeveryday 4y agoAn anecdote: the head of recruiting one time approached me and made a comment about there being a lack of diversity on my team (my team was all White males). She (head of recruiting) was Indian. Every few weeks an email goes out about new hires. I noticed that a department head, who is Indian, has a team entirely comprised of other Indians. I asked the recruiter "I am not seeing a lot of diversity on that team. Are you also concerned with that?" Recruiter was totally caught off guard - of course the reason is clear. Diversity always means less White people. A team of no Whites is the epitome of diversity. She stopped bothering me at that point.
- issa 4y agoI think it is worth pointing out that this simply is not true. The epitome of diversity is when the makeup of a team reflects the demographic makeup of the larger society.
- geraldwhen 4y agoWrong. Look at D&I reports that are published publicly. Diversity is the percent of non white, or non male, or non heterosexual employees depending on the graph. The company where I work recently published such a report. Population demographics have nothing to do with the hiring quotas.
- mathverse 4y agoDo white europeans in general fall into the category of "white people" in the US? As in they are not treated as diversity hires compared to african americans?
- issa 4y agoAmerican racism is VERY complicated. President Trump accidentally explained it pretty well in his comments about "shithole countries". But essentially, people from most European countries are considered "white" when it comes to hiring and diversity issues.
- mathverse 4y agoThat's unfortunate but not unexpected. Europeans consider white americans / african americans / latino americans to be just "americans". There's no distinction.
- issa 4y agoThat's just how silly racism is. By the same token, Americans consider all Europeans to be "just Europeans". We don't distinguish if you're from Ireland or England, Greece or Macedonia, etc.
- BuyMyBitcoins 4y agoI don’t follow the “just Europeans” consideration you’ve proposed. As an American, people will inquire and make distinctions when race/ethnicity comes up. ‘So-and-so is French’, or Italian, or Greek, etc.. Usually people also mention when their families immigrated, or that they are part x/y (Irish, part German, or something to that effect).
- em-bee 4y agobut they also make distinctions in where someone is from within the US, and in the end they are still all considered white.
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- issa 4y agoThere is a lot to unpack here, but what you are saying is only true in the context of an all-white, all-male company that is trying to become more diverse.