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Firefox on Android with ublock origin is a _must_. Otherwise the mobile web is nigh unusable.

by flerchin 4y ago

haolez 4y ago
I use Chrome Mobile with NextDNS blocking the ads. The experience is mostly the same.
- raffraffraff 4y ago
  Except the cost, unless that's now free
- celsoazevedo 4y ago
  A lot of stuff is loaded from the same host as the content. For example, a DNS blocking solution like NextDNS can't block YouTube ads without breaking the videos (same with ads on Google Search and many other sites). It also can't apply cosmetic filters to block things like cookies popups or hide empty spots where ads are supposed to be displayed. DNS blocking is better than nothing, but it's very basic when compared to a browser extension like uBlock Origin.
baal80spam 4y ago
I use Brave - it has builtin ad/scriptblocker.
- GekkePrutser 4y ago
  But also builtin cryptoscams :(
  - fuckcensorship 4y ago
    Out of curiosity, do you have an issue with crypto as a whole or is there something about Brave’s BAT in particular that you dislike?
    - GekkePrutser 4y ago
      I think crypto in general is disastrous for our environment right now, and has offered none of the self-control finance benefits it promised due to ever more regulation (the EU is soon planning to ban private wallets, you can only legally host money on exchanges then, which basically means we're full circle to the old banking system). All this has been precipitated by the frantic speculators looking for a quick buck. Bitcoin wasn't invented to enable money-hoarding investors, it was designed to undermine the old banking system and give us back full control over our money. This aspect has been completely undermined by regulation now. But BAT is a different beast as it doesn't use mining. So my concern is not the same as for general crypto schemes. It's the BAT idea in particular that I don't like though. It's just a new, more indirect, payment scheme for advertisers. I just want the advertising industry to die and get out from between the content creators and consumers. I know this is not a realistic viewpoint but I'm not willing to contribute to it. Brave solves the privacy problem to some extent but not the ad problem. And in a way they even promote ads by paying users to view them. Brave seems to be looking to make the current system more palatable (and of course become the gatekeeper for this new tech which would be priceless if it ever took off). I've long given up on the ad system completely. I already pay for the sites I like and use a lot (at least where they offer this option) but I don't make any exception for adblocking ever. Even when they're non-tracked.
      - cowtools 4y ago
        >the EU is soon planning to ban private wallets, you can only legally host money on exchanges then, which basically means we're full circle to the old banking system They can try to "ban" whatever they want, but it's not happening.
      - imiric 4y ago
        > It's the BAT idea in particular that I don't like though. It's just a new, more indirect, payment scheme for advertisers. The advertising monetization model can't be stopped dead in its tracks. The fact is that it's the simplest way for content providers to generate revenue, and that won't change overnight. What BAT is attempting to do is establish a market between content consumers and providers. The BAT wallet is funded either by attention, i.e. consuming ads, or by directly purchasing BAT. In that sense, the advertising middle-man could eventually be removed from the transaction. Note that I don't use Brave, nor particularly care about the company, but BAT is the best idea that works in practice to overcome the ad business model. It should be celebrated for that, and we need more such projects. We also need them to be friendly for content providers to integrate in order to boost adoption.
- zamadatix 4y ago
  There are a dozen Chromium browsers on Android with blockers but it's still not quite the same. Raw < DNS blocking < custom solutions < uBlock Origin
- chakkepolja 4y ago
  Brave feels much more cluttered and heavier. Secondly, enabling JS on per site basis is easier on FF Android with UBO. Speeds up browsing a lot.
- RedComet 4y ago
  I doesn't block most (1st party) ads. See twitter, reddit, etc for example. Yes, that is with shields set to aggressive. FF + uBlock, on the other hand, has no problem with this.

Firefox on Android with ublock origin is a _must_. Otherwise the mobile web is nigh unusable.

haolez 4y ago

I use Chrome Mobile with NextDNS blocking the ads. The experience is mostly the same.

raffraffraff 4y ago
Except the cost, unless that's now free
celsoazevedo 4y ago
A lot of stuff is loaded from the same host as the content. For example, a DNS blocking solution like NextDNS can't block YouTube ads without breaking the videos (same with ads on Google Search and many other sites). It also can't apply cosmetic filters to block things like cookies popups or hide empty spots where ads are supposed to be displayed. DNS blocking is better than nothing, but it's very basic when compared to a browser extension like uBlock Origin.

baal80spam 4y ago

I use Brave - it has builtin ad/scriptblocker.

GekkePrutser 4y ago
But also builtin cryptoscams :(
- fuckcensorship 4y ago
  Out of curiosity, do you have an issue with crypto as a whole or is there something about Brave’s BAT in particular that you dislike?
  - GekkePrutser 4y ago
    I think crypto in general is disastrous for our environment right now, and has offered none of the self-control finance benefits it promised due to ever more regulation (the EU is soon planning to ban private wallets, you can only legally host money on exchanges then, which basically means we're full circle to the old banking system). All this has been precipitated by the frantic speculators looking for a quick buck. Bitcoin wasn't invented to enable money-hoarding investors, it was designed to undermine the old banking system and give us back full control over our money. This aspect has been completely undermined by regulation now. But BAT is a different beast as it doesn't use mining. So my concern is not the same as for general crypto schemes. It's the BAT idea in particular that I don't like though. It's just a new, more indirect, payment scheme for advertisers. I just want the advertising industry to die and get out from between the content creators and consumers. I know this is not a realistic viewpoint but I'm not willing to contribute to it. Brave solves the privacy problem to some extent but not the ad problem. And in a way they even promote ads by paying users to view them. Brave seems to be looking to make the current system more palatable (and of course become the gatekeeper for this new tech which would be priceless if it ever took off). I've long given up on the ad system completely. I already pay for the sites I like and use a lot (at least where they offer this option) but I don't make any exception for adblocking ever. Even when they're non-tracked.
    - cowtools 4y ago
      >the EU is soon planning to ban private wallets, you can only legally host money on exchanges then, which basically means we're full circle to the old banking system They can try to "ban" whatever they want, but it's not happening.
    - imiric 4y ago
      > It's the BAT idea in particular that I don't like though. It's just a new, more indirect, payment scheme for advertisers. The advertising monetization model can't be stopped dead in its tracks. The fact is that it's the simplest way for content providers to generate revenue, and that won't change overnight. What BAT is attempting to do is establish a market between content consumers and providers. The BAT wallet is funded either by attention, i.e. consuming ads, or by directly purchasing BAT. In that sense, the advertising middle-man could eventually be removed from the transaction. Note that I don't use Brave, nor particularly care about the company, but BAT is the best idea that works in practice to overcome the ad business model. It should be celebrated for that, and we need more such projects. We also need them to be friendly for content providers to integrate in order to boost adoption.
zamadatix 4y ago
There are a dozen Chromium browsers on Android with blockers but it's still not quite the same. Raw < DNS blocking < custom solutions < uBlock Origin
chakkepolja 4y ago
Brave feels much more cluttered and heavier. Secondly, enabling JS on per site basis is easier on FF Android with UBO. Speeds up browsing a lot.
RedComet 4y ago
I doesn't block most (1st party) ads. See twitter, reddit, etc for example. Yes, that is with shields set to aggressive. FF + uBlock, on the other hand, has no problem with this.