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He does have a point regarding dependency on stuff made elsewhere. Should europe head towards total war, it would barely manage to source oil and gas for the me

He does have a point regarding dependency on stuff made elsewhere. Should europe head towards total war, it would barely manage to source oil and gas for the metal processing industry and for fuel. Where would countries like the uk or hungary or others get their much need resources for building tanks and warships? Not to mention the much needed electronics. In my view a good chunk of manufacturing needs to return to allied nations so that even at short notice we can redirect efforts from consumer goods to defence. Imagine china stops sending us pcbs while saudi arabia stops sending oil. We’re bust and we’ve signed our own demise one outsourcing contract at a time. That and we need critical thinking by better education. Else all it takes is facebook ads to influence our elections and we collapse from the inside.

paganel 4y ago
> Should europe head towards total war That's why we had tried our best not to get into "total war", two world wars were enough for us.
- yrgulation 4y ago
  Sadly, thats not how the world works. To prevent war we must be ready for war. And right now we, in europe, aren’t. I am not talking about north korean style paranoia. But we should strategically ensure that we have plenty of an industrial base ready for repurposing and that we have secure sources of energy and resources at our disposal need be. I hate war. But war is a result of our primate brains and until we evolve beyond that we need to be vigilant.
pydry 4y ago
>In my view a good chunk of manufacturing needs to return to allied nations I'm pretty sure this idea has now dawned on western elites, although probably 5-7 years too late. It takes decades to build up an industrial base from nothing. It's not even the literal presence of factories it's the skills base and the network of relationships and trust that enables a machine like shenzhen to run. We can certainly build it quicker than it took China (3 decades) but probably not quick enough to be ready for the next world war.
baybal2 4y ago

paganel 4y ago

> Should europe head towards total war That's why we had tried our best not to get into "total war", two world wars were enough for us.

yrgulation 4y ago
Sadly, thats not how the world works. To prevent war we must be ready for war. And right now we, in europe, aren’t. I am not talking about north korean style paranoia. But we should strategically ensure that we have plenty of an industrial base ready for repurposing and that we have secure sources of energy and resources at our disposal need be. I hate war. But war is a result of our primate brains and until we evolve beyond that we need to be vigilant.

pydry 4y ago

>In my view a good chunk of manufacturing needs to return to allied nations I'm pretty sure this idea has now dawned on western elites, although probably 5-7 years too late. It takes decades to build up an industrial base from nothing. It's not even the literal presence of factories it's the skills base and the network of relationships and trust that enables a machine like shenzhen to run. We can certainly build it quicker than it took China (3 decades) but probably not quick enough to be ready for the next world war.

baybal2 4y ago