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> Enter a cage willingly, with barely any complaint, for minor convenience, then cry when you're taken to the slaughterhouse I don't think it's fair to charact
by sofixa 4y ago
> Enter a cage willingly, with barely any complaint, for minor convenience, then cry when you're taken to the slaughterhouse
I don't think it's fair to characterise Gmail, Google Maps, YouTube and plenty other Google "products" (Pay, Music, Android, Android TV, Android Auto, Calendar, Podcasts, etc.) as "minor convenience". Some of them were literal game changers, and some still are (YouTube, Google Maps, even if they're finally starting to get decent competition).
Similarly, characterising Google's knowledge about one's habits and interests for the purpose of serving ads (that are also, at least sometimes, more interesting for the user) as "entering a cage" is hyperbolic to say the least.
Yes, having a corporation know you very well for monetisation is bad, but it's not a cage from which you're going to be slaughtered. And even today, many people would prefer, if they even have the choice, to have free access to Maps, Gmail, YouTube and all the rest instead of paying 5-20 $/€/£ each/month, or having to buy into Apple's expensive walled garden and its own massive issues and fleecing.
- AinderS 4y ago> "entering a cage" is hyperbolic to say the least. Until you do something forbidden, such as get an abortion, and hyperbole becomes literal truth as you're sent to prison.
- School-Cotton 4y agoHas anyone in the world ever been sent to prison for getting an abortion based on Google location data? Or is this all still hypothetical? (Seriously curious)
- AinderS 4y agoI don't know, but I don't see this as a problem that is specific to Google or abortion. China can serve as a cautionary example of where surveillance leads.
- School-Cotton 4y agoTrue, fair point.
- Schroedingersat 4y ago> Similarly, characterising Google's knowledge about one's habits and interests for the purpose of serving ads (that are also, at least sometimes, more interesting for the user) as "entering a cage" is hyperbolic to say the least. If you don't think it's a cage, try saying no to the data collection of google and others. Where I live it cuts you off from most community events and organisations. It cuts you off from second hand markets. It cuts you off from many events. It is starting to cut you off from access to banking services (for now limiting features, but the stranglehold will get tighter once attestation hits PCs). And during covid it got you passed over on the vaccine waiting list without a google/apple only app and then forced you to choose between submitting to google and awkwardly standing out the front of any shop demanding they follow the law and let you sign in manually in order to buy anything while you get lumped in with anti-vaccers. It has already repeatedly been used to round up protestors and dragnet people for criminal investigations when they had nothing to do with it. Now abortion, and it wil, only get worse.