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I support the Catalan movement as I believe in all people’s right to self determination but that is fundamentally different. Catalonia does not have a legal ri
by kmonsen 4y ago
I support the Catalan movement as I believe in all people’s right to self determination but that is fundamentally different.
Catalonia does not have a legal right to just break free from Spain. It would also be difficult for any country if the richest region could break free at will.
On the other hand Hong Kong has a legal right for local rules for at least 50 years after the handover in 1997. That treaty was broken last year.
So legally Spain is in the right and China is wrong.
- vkou 4y agoLegality is meaningless when there was no meeting of minds when the law was drafted. Catalonia's current situation was created by an authoritarian, fascist government. The law in question was drafted without the consent of the governed, and is thus illegitimate, if it does not have ongoing consent of its constituents.
- sofixa 4y ago> Catalonia's current situation was created by an authoritarian, fascist government No, significantly more authority was devolved to the region from the democratic governments following Franco. However there was no point in history where Catalonia breaking away was an explicitly allowed option (of course).
- fvv 4y agoand current situation in HK has what you are saying should be a requirement for a law (let alone an act of force ) : the "without the consent of the governed," you are citing..
- kmonsen 4y agoI think legality still matters. But more importantly it is a joke to compare the situation in Catalonia with that of Hong Kong. It’s not like we see trains full of people on the way to torture in concentration camps leaving Barcelona.