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I read that as DR DOS (Digital Research) which I was enamored of until MS DOS 5.0 came out. Digital Research made GEM (a Mac-like desktop GUI) and included a p

by wenc 4y ago

I read that as DR DOS (Digital Research) which I was enamored of until MS DOS 5.0 came out. Digital Research made GEM (a Mac-like desktop GUI) and included a pared down version called ViewMAX in DR DOS 5.0 but ultimately didn't deliver on providing a Mac-like interface.

intothemild 4y ago
Yeah I too loved DR-DOS until that was supplanted by Windows 3.11 and then Windows 95. Of all the flavours of DOS it was the best at the time.
lproven 4y ago
DR didn't deliver a Mac-like interface on DOS because Apple sued them: https://www.osnews.com/story/26322/apple-vs-dri-the-iotheri-look-and-feel-lawsuit/ https://www.osnews.com/story/26322/apple-vs-dri-the-iotheri-... But GEM ran on 2 different platforms: DOS PCs, and on the Atari ST. The Atari version was not affected by Apple's lawsuit and delivered a very slick interface. https://aranym.github.io/screenshots.html https://aranym.github.io/screenshots.html
- LargoLasskhyfv 4y ago
  Ahem! Sorry, those screenies don't show GEM as it looked at the times. That looks like something from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiNT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiNT which although started early after, wasn't that common and/or usable. It got a boost in development much later only, IIRC. What can be seen there is a work of love/passion, from not that much people, running in an emulator, which enables configurations which were either very expensive, rare, or didn't even ever exist.
  - lproven 4y ago
    I didn't claim that they were from the time. What I am saying is much simpler: that DR didn't deliver a Mac-like GEM on the PC for the excellent reason that Apple sued them to stop them doing it. That's why PC GEM got crippled, and ended up as just a file manager/app launcher in the form of ViewMax. (It is also worth nothing that Caldera subsidiary Lineo made GEM GPL around the turn of the century, and since then, PC GEM regained all the features Apple made DR remove and more, including Bézier curve support and things.) All I am saying is that Atari GEM wasn't crippled, was a popular and well-loved GUI that people are still using and working on even today. https://emutos.sourceforge.io/ https://emutos.sourceforge.io/ https://aranym.github.io/afros.html https://aranym.github.io/afros.html

by wenc 4y ago

intothemild 4y ago

Yeah I too loved DR-DOS until that was supplanted by Windows 3.11 and then Windows 95. Of all the flavours of DOS it was the best at the time.

lproven 4y ago

DR didn't deliver a Mac-like interface on DOS because Apple sued them: https://www.osnews.com/story/26322/apple-vs-dri-the-iotheri-look-and-feel-lawsuit/ https://www.osnews.com/story/26322/apple-vs-dri-the-iotheri-... But GEM ran on 2 different platforms: DOS PCs, and on the Atari ST. The Atari version was not affected by Apple's lawsuit and delivered a very slick interface. https://aranym.github.io/screenshots.html https://aranym.github.io/screenshots.html

LargoLasskhyfv 4y ago
Ahem! Sorry, those screenies don't show GEM as it looked at the times. That looks like something from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiNT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiNT which although started early after, wasn't that common and/or usable. It got a boost in development much later only, IIRC. What can be seen there is a work of love/passion, from not that much people, running in an emulator, which enables configurations which were either very expensive, rare, or didn't even ever exist.
- lproven 4y ago
  I didn't claim that they were from the time. What I am saying is much simpler: that DR didn't deliver a Mac-like GEM on the PC for the excellent reason that Apple sued them to stop them doing it. That's why PC GEM got crippled, and ended up as just a file manager/app launcher in the form of ViewMax. (It is also worth nothing that Caldera subsidiary Lineo made GEM GPL around the turn of the century, and since then, PC GEM regained all the features Apple made DR remove and more, including Bézier curve support and things.) All I am saying is that Atari GEM wasn't crippled, was a popular and well-loved GUI that people are still using and working on even today. https://emutos.sourceforge.io/ https://emutos.sourceforge.io/ https://aranym.github.io/afros.html https://aranym.github.io/afros.html