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> The urgency that prevailed in 2020 has evaporated. I know parents of young children who are extremely disappointed that it took less than a year to trial and

> The urgency that prevailed in 2020 has evaporated. I know parents of young children who are extremely disappointed that it took less than a year to trial and approve the first COVID-19 vaccine for adults, and then a full year and a half to trial and approve the first COVID-19 vaccine for children under 5.

ars 4y ago
That's because it basically doesn't work for children. It's nothing to do with the speed of the trial, the vaccine just doesn't work in children. Even the approved one that exists today barely does anything. There were a ton of attempts before that that simply straight out didn't work.
- puffoflogic 4y ago
  What does this have to do with anything? The CDC said we need to take the vaccine. That's all you need to know. If you need to take it then obviously kids need to take it too.
  - kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 4y ago
  - internet_user 4y ago
    Why did UK’s Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) refuse to recommend universal vaccination to 12-15s on risk benefit basis? How did these internationally renowned vaccinologists and immunologists suddenly become antivaxxers overnight? Professor Andrew Pollard, Chair (University of Oxford) Professor Lim Wei Shen, Chair COVID-19 immunisation (Nottingham University Hospitals) Professor Anthony Harnden, Deputy Chair (University of Oxford) Dr Kevin Brown (Public Health England) Dr Rebecca Cordery (Public Health England) Dr Maggie Wearmouth (East Sussex Healthcare NHS Trust) Professor Matt Keeling (University of Warwick) Alison Lawrence (lay member) Professor Robert Read (Southampton General Hospital) Professor Anthony Scott (London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine) Professor Adam Finn (University of Bristol) Dr Fiona van der Klis (National Institute for Public Health and the Environment, Netherlands) Professor Maarten Postma (University of Groningen) Professor Simon Kroll (Imperial College London) Dr Martin Williams (University Hospitals Bristol) Professor Jeremy Brown (University College London Hospitals) https://www.gov.uk/government/groups/joint-committee-on-vaccination-and-immunisation https://www.gov.uk/government/groups/joint-committee-on-vacc... https://www.bmj.com/content/374/bmj.n2180 https://www.bmj.com/content/374/bmj.n2180
    - puffoflogic 4y ago
      - nathanaldensr 4y ago
        Come and get them, keyboard warrior. :)
      - ars 4y ago
        You are seriously calling any criticism of a vaccine "antivaxxer"? In your mind there's no such thing as a vaccine that fails? Are you for real? The COVID vaccine does kids doesn't work. Period. And saying that doesn't make someone "anti-science". And I truly can not even begin to wrap my mind around the idea that you would take someone's kids away because they dare question if a vaccine works! What kind of bizarre religion are you part of that requires you never to question vaccines? Or are you required never to question any authority at all? And you have had a serious failure of education if you think that what you are doing/advocating for is science. I assure you - it's not. What you are advocating for is some kind of perverted worship of science.
        internet_user 4y ago
        The best part, that list is the UK JCVI, the official body that advises the UK govt. Like the NIH Office of Vaccine Research. They declined to recommend universal vaccination for under 15. Politicians disregarded the advice. Pollard literally invented the AstraZeneca vaccine, has to recuse for all these meetings, but on this forum - he’s an antivaxxer loooooool He literally invented half of the vaccines you took as a child lmao
  - ars 4y ago
    When I first read this reply I was 100% certain you were being sarcastic. But seeing your further reply, you are serious? I'm really having a hard time believing that. You can't possibly be serious, can you?

ars 4y ago

That's because it basically doesn't work for children. It's nothing to do with the speed of the trial, the vaccine just doesn't work in children. Even the approved one that exists today barely does anything. There were a ton of attempts before that that simply straight out didn't work.

puffoflogic 4y ago
What does this have to do with anything? The CDC said we need to take the vaccine. That's all you need to know. If you need to take it then obviously kids need to take it too.
- kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 4y ago
- internet_user 4y ago
  Why did UK’s Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) refuse to recommend universal vaccination to 12-15s on risk benefit basis? How did these internationally renowned vaccinologists and immunologists suddenly become antivaxxers overnight? Professor Andrew Pollard, Chair (University of Oxford) Professor Lim Wei Shen, Chair COVID-19 immunisation (Nottingham University Hospitals) Professor Anthony Harnden, Deputy Chair (University of Oxford) Dr Kevin Brown (Public Health England) Dr Rebecca Cordery (Public Health England) Dr Maggie Wearmouth (East Sussex Healthcare NHS Trust) Professor Matt Keeling (University of Warwick) Alison Lawrence (lay member) Professor Robert Read (Southampton General Hospital) Professor Anthony Scott (London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine) Professor Adam Finn (University of Bristol) Dr Fiona van der Klis (National Institute for Public Health and the Environment, Netherlands) Professor Maarten Postma (University of Groningen) Professor Simon Kroll (Imperial College London) Dr Martin Williams (University Hospitals Bristol) Professor Jeremy Brown (University College London Hospitals) https://www.gov.uk/government/groups/joint-committee-on-vaccination-and-immunisation https://www.gov.uk/government/groups/joint-committee-on-vacc... https://www.bmj.com/content/374/bmj.n2180 https://www.bmj.com/content/374/bmj.n2180
  - puffoflogic 4y ago
    - nathanaldensr 4y ago
      Come and get them, keyboard warrior. :)
    - ars 4y ago
      You are seriously calling any criticism of a vaccine "antivaxxer"? In your mind there's no such thing as a vaccine that fails? Are you for real? The COVID vaccine does kids doesn't work. Period. And saying that doesn't make someone "anti-science". And I truly can not even begin to wrap my mind around the idea that you would take someone's kids away because they dare question if a vaccine works! What kind of bizarre religion are you part of that requires you never to question vaccines? Or are you required never to question any authority at all? And you have had a serious failure of education if you think that what you are doing/advocating for is science. I assure you - it's not. What you are advocating for is some kind of perverted worship of science.
      - internet_user 4y ago
        The best part, that list is the UK JCVI, the official body that advises the UK govt. Like the NIH Office of Vaccine Research. They declined to recommend universal vaccination for under 15. Politicians disregarded the advice. Pollard literally invented the AstraZeneca vaccine, has to recuse for all these meetings, but on this forum - he’s an antivaxxer loooooool He literally invented half of the vaccines you took as a child lmao
- ars 4y ago
  When I first read this reply I was 100% certain you were being sarcastic. But seeing your further reply, you are serious? I'm really having a hard time believing that. You can't possibly be serious, can you?