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The president of the United States literally said "You're not going to get Covid if you've had these vaccinations" - https://youtu.be/VArXfQU--LA?t=21 https://y

The president of the United States literally said "You're not going to get Covid if you've had these vaccinations" - https://youtu.be/VArXfQU--LA?t=21 https://youtu.be/VArXfQU--LA?t=21 It's likely the vaccines reduced the spread of the virus temporarily, but it certainly wasn't very long-lasting. The efficacy waned quickly, even against the original strains/Alpha/Delta - take a look at case rates in Israel (first heavily vaccinated country) through mid-late 2021 (before Omicron).

Terretta 4y ago
As was known before Americans took them: 90 - 180 days useful efficacy tops. That’s why the first vax card already had a half dozen lines to record doses.
- jmaygarden 4y ago
  I definitely did NOT know that when the vaccinations were first rolled out. Do you have a source?
etchalon 4y ago
And as this is the first time any politician has engaged in hyperbole, or been made incorrect by changing information, the American public was rightfully shocked.
- apostacy 4y ago
  Except that created a narrative that the pandemic was above politics, and was only about public health and "the science". But that is clearly not the case.
sovnade 4y ago
Remember Delta wasn't even around until late summer. Biden's speech was barely an exaggeration at the time when we were dealing with the original strain. Was it 100% effective at preventing all infection entirely? No. It was 100% effective in preventing severe symptoms, hospitalization, and death, and was 95% effective in preventing symptoms entirely. 95% reduction in infection and 100% reduction in death is close enough to round up for a non-technical speech.
- thrown_22 4y ago
  - sovnade 4y ago
    It started to wane slightly after 2 months. It was still nearly 100% effective at that point. It was still highly effective at 6 months (85%+), which is when a booster would return it to full effectiveness.
    - thrown_22 4y ago
    - throwaway234223 4y ago
      I'm in agreement if you are ignoring delta [1]. [1]: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2113090 https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2113090
- josephcsible 4y ago
  > It was 100% effective in preventing severe symptoms, hospitalization, and death Do you have a source for this? It sounds completely implausible.
- Ekaros 4y ago
  So it was outright lie. Pure evil to spread that sort of pseudo-science.

Terretta 4y ago

As was known before Americans took them: 90 - 180 days useful efficacy tops. That’s why the first vax card already had a half dozen lines to record doses.

jmaygarden 4y ago
I definitely did NOT know that when the vaccinations were first rolled out. Do you have a source?

etchalon 4y ago

And as this is the first time any politician has engaged in hyperbole, or been made incorrect by changing information, the American public was rightfully shocked.

apostacy 4y ago
Except that created a narrative that the pandemic was above politics, and was only about public health and "the science". But that is clearly not the case.

sovnade 4y ago

Remember Delta wasn't even around until late summer. Biden's speech was barely an exaggeration at the time when we were dealing with the original strain. Was it 100% effective at preventing all infection entirely? No. It was 100% effective in preventing severe symptoms, hospitalization, and death, and was 95% effective in preventing symptoms entirely. 95% reduction in infection and 100% reduction in death is close enough to round up for a non-technical speech.

thrown_22 4y ago
- sovnade 4y ago
  It started to wane slightly after 2 months. It was still nearly 100% effective at that point. It was still highly effective at 6 months (85%+), which is when a booster would return it to full effectiveness.
  - thrown_22 4y ago
  - throwaway234223 4y ago
    I'm in agreement if you are ignoring delta [1]. [1]: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2113090 https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2113090
josephcsible 4y ago
> It was 100% effective in preventing severe symptoms, hospitalization, and death Do you have a source for this? It sounds completely implausible.
Ekaros 4y ago
So it was outright lie. Pure evil to spread that sort of pseudo-science.