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Absolutely. African Americans were excluded from its benefits by a viciously racist society. We should rectify that today. But it doesn't detract at all from

by danans 4y ago

Absolutely. African Americans were excluded from its benefits by a viciously racist society. We should rectify that today. But it doesn't detract at all from the fact that investment in regular "non-genius" people (whether via the GI Bill or otherwise) had a fundamentally positive impact on the society.

spacemanmatt 4y ago
- MisterBastahrd 4y ago
  His literal first line and 50% of his total statement: > Absolutely. African Americans were excluded from its benefits by a viciously racist society. We should rectify that today.
  - spacemanmatt 4y ago
    ...then follows it with complete dismissal of their opportunity cost and our loss of their productivity. Which is what I addressed, because it undermined what seemed to be an otherwise decent statement.
    - MisterBastahrd 4y ago
      Please refer to the first or third definitions of the word "rectify" here: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rectify https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rectify You are arguing against something he did not say. So to make it easier for you, he is saying: 1. We should correct the wrongs that we have inflicted upon African-Americans in the past, including opportunity costs. 2. We should also recognize that making an investment in all people is a net benefit for our society I don't know how to make it any clearer than that.
      - spacemanmatt 4y ago
        The disparity of benefits provided by the GI bill yielded exactly a modern racial disparity. I think you and OP are on the short side of explaining why such an overtly racist event can be described as a net benefit. The sentiment that you believe it should be better does have any weight in this context.
        MisterBastahrd 4y ago
        I've already explained it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
- panza 4y ago
  That's not what they said, and I believe you know that. Not sure what you're trying to achieve here.

by danans 4y ago

spacemanmatt 4y ago

MisterBastahrd 4y ago
His literal first line and 50% of his total statement: > Absolutely. African Americans were excluded from its benefits by a viciously racist society. We should rectify that today.
- spacemanmatt 4y ago
  ...then follows it with complete dismissal of their opportunity cost and our loss of their productivity. Which is what I addressed, because it undermined what seemed to be an otherwise decent statement.
  - MisterBastahrd 4y ago
    Please refer to the first or third definitions of the word "rectify" here: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rectify https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rectify You are arguing against something he did not say. So to make it easier for you, he is saying: 1. We should correct the wrongs that we have inflicted upon African-Americans in the past, including opportunity costs. 2. We should also recognize that making an investment in all people is a net benefit for our society I don't know how to make it any clearer than that.
    - spacemanmatt 4y ago
      The disparity of benefits provided by the GI bill yielded exactly a modern racial disparity. I think you and OP are on the short side of explaining why such an overtly racist event can be described as a net benefit. The sentiment that you believe it should be better does have any weight in this context.
      - MisterBastahrd 4y ago
        I've already explained it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
panza 4y ago
That's not what they said, and I believe you know that. Not sure what you're trying to achieve here.