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How about: they are tampering with your property (your car). I think that is inherently intrusive. If, say, they were automatically tracking your vehicle with
by Thrymr 15y ago
How about: they are tampering with your property (your car). I think that is inherently intrusive. If, say, they were automatically tracking your vehicle with software that recognized it in traffic cams in public, that would not be intrusive (though some may still find it creepy).
What if this technology was cheap enough to slap one on everybody's car? If you don't need a warrant, why not? Can the feds install a tracker on every car in the USA? It's a lot cheaper than following everyone.
There is a mechanism for targeting specific individuals in the course of an actual investigation. It is getting a warrant.
- tptacek 15y agoI think it's more intrusive to actually be tailed: they can see who's in the car with you, they can watch what you do with that person when the car stops, they can see what you're eating, they know when you get out of the car, they know if you're talking to someone outside the car, and any number of other things. And they can get all that stuff today without a warrant; they will never need a warrant to tail someone.
- WayneDB 15y agoThey are tampering with your car though. Your feelings about the matter don't change that fact. Where exactly do you draw the line on LEO getting physical with you or your things? Would you mind if they started putting things on the roof of your house? How about in your back yard? I am guessing that you draw the line wherever it suits you personally, like most people. There are some people who love their cars though. What about them?
- learc83 15y agoIs it OK for them to open the trunk to place the device? What about a door, a gascap, a tailgate? When do we draw the line? If it's not tampering with your car to place a tracking device on it. Is it fine for me to go around looking under bumpers for one to take? I'd love to get my hands on one, I've got enough EE experience to have some fun.
- tptacek 15y agoNo, the police cannot open your trunk without a warrant. They can't even search your trunk, under most circumstances, when they arrest you.