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> wayland: if we move the compositor into the kernel we can solve several performance problems. Where exactly does Wayland introduce a kernel-based compositor?

> wayland: if we move the compositor into the kernel we can solve several performance problems. Where exactly does Wayland introduce a kernel-based compositor? Existing Wayland implementations just consolidate what was often several userspace processes in the composited X11 model into a single monolithic userspace process responsible for the window management, input multiplexing/routing, and compositing. I'm not certain this is even a strictly specified aspect of Wayland either, it may just be convenient and simpler to implement this way while enjoying some natural performance advantages. There's no kernel Wayland compositors AFAIK. Perhaps you're conflating KMS with Wayland since they kind of overlapped chronologically? KMS enabled running XOrg without requiring root using the modesetting driver, it's been a huge step towards cleaning up the graphics stack on Linux, independent of Wayland.

somat 4y ago
You are correct of course. as an openbsd user it turns out I don't actually know that much about the actual advantages of wayland. I tend to look at it from the rather myopic view point of what it is missing rather than what it has
- exikyut 4y ago
  This is entirely unrelated to the discussion, but something interesting happened to this subchain and I can't just wander past :). I came back to this tab after a few hours to find (at the point I'd come back) that all three posts in this chain were marked as being written "45 minutes ago". All three of them. After having a bit of a memory crisis ("I read this last night... didn't I???") I searched for the text in one of them in Algolia, which found the post and confirmed it had been posted hours earlier. Algolia's now resynced to HN, and shows the same timestamps. Didn't properly investigate at the time. Woops. At least I grabbed a couple of screenshots. https://imgur.com/a/fInenj4 https://imgur.com/a/fInenj4

somat 4y ago

You are correct of course. as an openbsd user it turns out I don't actually know that much about the actual advantages of wayland. I tend to look at it from the rather myopic view point of what it is missing rather than what it has

exikyut 4y ago
This is entirely unrelated to the discussion, but something interesting happened to this subchain and I can't just wander past :). I came back to this tab after a few hours to find (at the point I'd come back) that all three posts in this chain were marked as being written "45 minutes ago". All three of them. After having a bit of a memory crisis ("I read this last night... didn't I???") I searched for the text in one of them in Algolia, which found the post and confirmed it had been posted hours earlier. Algolia's now resynced to HN, and shows the same timestamps. Didn't properly investigate at the time. Woops. At least I grabbed a couple of screenshots. https://imgur.com/a/fInenj4 https://imgur.com/a/fInenj4