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gadflyinyoureye 4y ago
At present the turbines are not recyclable. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-02-05/wind-turbine-blades-can-t-be-recycled-so-they-re-piling-up-in-landfills https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-02-05/wind-turb... EVs are probably really worse than hybrids. https://youtu.be/S1E8SQde5rk https://youtu.be/S1E8SQde5rk Solar panels are pretty toxic. Present recycling produces all sorts of toxic waste that might be poorly handled. https://www.cfact.org/2019/09/15/the-solar-panel-toxic-waste-problem/ https://www.cfact.org/2019/09/15/the-solar-panel-toxic-waste... Batteries are often sourced from slave labor. https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/green-battery-revolution-powering-social-and-environmental-risks https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/green-battery-r... Lithium miners often continue exploration of indigenous peoples. https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/business/batteries/tossed-aside-in-the-lithium-rush/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/business/batteries/t... Lithium mining often poisons the environment. https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/renewable/the-environmental-impact-of-lithium-batteries/ https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/renewable/the-env... The list goes on.
- kvetching 4y ago
  It's amazing how stuck up people here on Hacker News are. You've provided info on how Green Energy isn't green, as requested. You went far and beyond what they asked for and now they downvote you because it's inconvenient information.
- anigbrowl 4y ago
  Obvious shill is obvious, from the name to the gish gallop of 6 different arguments, when what was asked for was a quantitative argument.
  - kvetching 4y ago
    Obvious China Shill is Obvious. (China is the #1 beneficiary of Green Energy policy in the US, they buy off politicians to push this agenda so we are forced to buy Green Energy products that are only made in China currently)
  - gadflyinyoureye 4y ago
    Wow. I’m supposed to do a PHDs worth of work on a topic? I gave multiple arguments because the OP appeared to not now about the externalities of EV and the renewables in general. Love this site. The site of “science”.
    - anigbrowl 4y ago
      Yea...
      - kvetching 4y ago
        Go jack off to a wind farm.

At present the turbines are not recyclable. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-02-05/wind-turbine-blades-can-t-be-recycled-so-they-re-piling-up-in-landfills https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-02-05/wind-turb... EVs are probably really worse than hybrids. https://youtu.be/S1E8SQde5rk https://youtu.be/S1E8SQde5rk Solar panels are pretty toxic. Present recycling produces all sorts of toxic waste that might be poorly handled. https://www.cfact.org/2019/09/15/the-solar-panel-toxic-waste-problem/ https://www.cfact.org/2019/09/15/the-solar-panel-toxic-waste... Batteries are often sourced from slave labor. https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/green-battery-revolution-powering-social-and-environmental-risks https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/green-battery-r... Lithium miners often continue exploration of indigenous peoples. https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/business/batteries/tossed-aside-in-the-lithium-rush/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/business/batteries/t... Lithium mining often poisons the environment. https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/renewable/the-environmental-impact-of-lithium-batteries/ https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/renewable/the-env... The list goes on.

kvetching 4y ago
It's amazing how stuck up people here on Hacker News are. You've provided info on how Green Energy isn't green, as requested. You went far and beyond what they asked for and now they downvote you because it's inconvenient information.
anigbrowl 4y ago
Obvious shill is obvious, from the name to the gish gallop of 6 different arguments, when what was asked for was a quantitative argument.
- kvetching 4y ago
  Obvious China Shill is Obvious. (China is the #1 beneficiary of Green Energy policy in the US, they buy off politicians to push this agenda so we are forced to buy Green Energy products that are only made in China currently)
- gadflyinyoureye 4y ago
  Wow. I’m supposed to do a PHDs worth of work on a topic? I gave multiple arguments because the OP appeared to not now about the externalities of EV and the renewables in general. Love this site. The site of “science”.
  - anigbrowl 4y ago
    Yea...
    - kvetching 4y ago
      Go jack off to a wind farm.