I am not arguing that the organization doesn't have emergent/systemic problems - that part is clear. But I still don't think any conversation that simplifies th

I am not arguing that the organization doesn't have emergent/systemic problems - that part is clear. But I still don't think any conversation that simplifies this problem down to "cops" alone can really get anywhere. If you look at why they are insulating themselves, the climate in which these "us vs. them dynamics" are unfolding seems to be at the center of this, and the cops are just another tribe in the culture wars at this point. Albeit a tribe that is authorized to carry guns, and the power dynamic is obviously a big problem. That just makes this issue more complex, not less.