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Ukraine says Big Tech has dropped the ball on Russian propaganda

47 points by paulcarroty 4y ago

jbverschoor 4y ago
- smt88 4y ago
  > Just get rid of every country in the world, and let people live their lives I'm not sure why you think getting rid of governments means people would just "live their lives". There are no such utopias in our current world or in any historical one. If you don't centralize physical control and democratize it, you will have a society dominated by people who do things only because they are physically capable of it and want to, which means you won't be living your life (and may be luckier if you're just dead).
  - jbverschoor 4y ago
    Well.. what’s the difference now? Some people have nukes, army, the sole “right” to violence.
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    - smt88 4y ago
      The difference is that we are in the most peaceful and safe period in history.
  - lambdaba 4y ago
    Maybe just decentralize things a bit more... And then some more... And so on. The less power is concentrated the more we avoid wars and other zero sum things no?
    - gumby 4y ago
      > The less power is concentrated the more we avoid wars and other zero sum things no? That doesn’t seem to be the lesson of history. When all the entities are small the scale of a given conflict tends to be smaller but I think the absolute amount of warring and unfairness is generally higher. And still there were continent-scale wars in Europe even when it was packed with microstates. Larger states can, and generally do provide some more constant control against local abuse as well as alternate paths to asset acquisition than simply stealing yours. There may be some sort of appropriate number and scale that’s bes, and we probably haven’t found it if it exists, but the current system is way better than either pole (a gajillion microstates or one mega state)
    - desindol 4y ago
      I guess you never studied history central governments are a crucial reason for one of the most peaceful times humanity has ever lived through.
      - ls15 4y ago
        Centralized power is also a crucial reason for corruption and oppression. History is full of examples.
    - smsm42 4y ago
      > The less power is concentrated the more we avoid wars Good luck pitching this bright idea to Putin. Until you have him convinced that having all the power to himself is actually not a good idea, there's no way to avoid wars he is starting.
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dzhiurgis 4y ago
But the fiduciary duty for the investors!
Proven 4y ago

47 points by paulcarroty 4y ago

jbverschoor 4y ago

smt88 4y ago
> Just get rid of every country in the world, and let people live their lives I'm not sure why you think getting rid of governments means people would just "live their lives". There are no such utopias in our current world or in any historical one. If you don't centralize physical control and democratize it, you will have a society dominated by people who do things only because they are physically capable of it and want to, which means you won't be living your life (and may be luckier if you're just dead).
- jbverschoor 4y ago
  Well.. what’s the difference now? Some people have nukes, army, the sole “right” to violence.
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  - smt88 4y ago
    The difference is that we are in the most peaceful and safe period in history.
- lambdaba 4y ago
  Maybe just decentralize things a bit more... And then some more... And so on. The less power is concentrated the more we avoid wars and other zero sum things no?
  - gumby 4y ago
    > The less power is concentrated the more we avoid wars and other zero sum things no? That doesn’t seem to be the lesson of history. When all the entities are small the scale of a given conflict tends to be smaller but I think the absolute amount of warring and unfairness is generally higher. And still there were continent-scale wars in Europe even when it was packed with microstates. Larger states can, and generally do provide some more constant control against local abuse as well as alternate paths to asset acquisition than simply stealing yours. There may be some sort of appropriate number and scale that’s bes, and we probably haven’t found it if it exists, but the current system is way better than either pole (a gajillion microstates or one mega state)
  - desindol 4y ago
    I guess you never studied history central governments are a crucial reason for one of the most peaceful times humanity has ever lived through.
    - ls15 4y ago
      Centralized power is also a crucial reason for corruption and oppression. History is full of examples.
  - smsm42 4y ago
    > The less power is concentrated the more we avoid wars Good luck pitching this bright idea to Putin. Until you have him convinced that having all the power to himself is actually not a good idea, there's no way to avoid wars he is starting.
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dzhiurgis 4y ago

But the fiduciary duty for the investors!

Proven 4y ago